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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Now the question is.. is it time to leave Lastpass?
      sigh!

      Is that really a question? I think we know the answer to that one. Maybe that was rhetorical?

      LOL - it's only a real question because I'm a paying customer (of both currently). I'm looking to leave LMI to get the last 20 machines (I have 120 end points) that LMI really jacks the price up on.

      I really like Lastpass. I am a paying customer there too, and as long as they don't jack those rates I don't mind staying... though I think the service is easily worth $20 a year to me and that's a nearly 100% increase from what I pay now.

      I'm a paying customer as well (the mobile app is awesome) I'm concerned that this is going to change into a $5 a month service or more.

      Yeah that is my worry as well, but really I can't see that happening and people no leaving them. $5/month is what we pay for Office 365 business essentials, we pay a few more dollars a month for Netflix... both of these services we get a ton more value out of.

      They might be able to go to $5/month for business, Heck it might already be there... but I don't think consumers will buy it.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @coliver said:

        @dafyre said:

        @coliver said:

        So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

        I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

        What do you do for mobile access?

        You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

        Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

        The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @coliver said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @coliver said:

          @dafyre said:

          @coliver said:

          So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

          I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

          What do you do for mobile access?

          You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

          Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

          The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

          Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @coliver said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @coliver said:

            @dafyre said:

            @coliver said:

            So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

            I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

            What do you do for mobile access?

            You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

            Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

            The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

            Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

            Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @coliver said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @coliver said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @coliver said:

              @dafyre said:

              @coliver said:

              So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

              I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

              What do you do for mobile access?

              You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

              Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

              The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

              Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

              Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

              I could probably get away with the 20GB for most of my stuff..

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said:

                @coliver said:

                So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                Should work on Box, DropBox, OneDrive, etc. too.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @dafyre said:

                  @coliver said:

                  So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                  I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                  What do you do for mobile access?

                  You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

                  Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

                  The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

                  Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

                  Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

                  For $10/mo you could have a quarter TB on Vultr!

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @dafyre said:

                    @coliver said:

                    So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                    I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                    What do you do for mobile access?

                    You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

                    Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

                    The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

                    Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

                    Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

                    For $10/mo you could have a quarter TB on Vultr!

                    Tempting!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      We have one, that's where our ownCloud is. Costs almost nothing for tons of storage capacity.

                      At that cost you go to SATA spinning rust RAID 10 rather than the SSDs. But for something like ownCloud, not an issue.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        We have one, that's where our ownCloud is. Costs almost nothing for tons of storage capacity.

                        At that cost you go to SATA spinning rust RAID 10 rather than the SSDs. But for something like ownCloud, not an issue.

                        You still have to pay for the compute portion? So you would be looking at ~$15/month?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          We have one, that's where our ownCloud is. Costs almost nothing for tons of storage capacity.

                          At that cost you go to SATA spinning rust RAID 10 rather than the SSDs. But for something like ownCloud, not an issue.

                          You still have to pay for the compute portion? So you would be looking at ~$15/month?

                          No.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            We have one, that's where our ownCloud is. Costs almost nothing for tons of storage capacity.

                            At that cost you go to SATA spinning rust RAID 10 rather than the SSDs. But for something like ownCloud, not an issue.

                            You still have to pay for the compute portion? So you would be looking at ~$15/month?

                            No.

                            Oh... I see, sorry I misunderstood your previous post.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              It's REALLY cheap. You can built on Vultr starting at $5, but their storage nodes start at $10 and are much less granular. Their storage nodes are one of their best features. Great alternative option.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @dafyre said:

                                @coliver said:

                                So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                                I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                                What do you do for mobile access?

                                You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

                                Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

                                The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

                                Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

                                Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

                                For $10/mo you could have a quarter TB on Vultr!

                                Interesting.. but still only something for a techie... and compared to the current $12/yr, I'm not sure I'm even willing to do it. I do currently buy 50 GB from OneDrive for $1/mth, but moving to Office 365 person would get me 1 TB, plus all of the other benefits...

                                So many options.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                                  I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                                  What do you do for mobile access?

                                  You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

                                  Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

                                  The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

                                  Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

                                  Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

                                  For $10/mo you could have a quarter TB on Vultr!

                                  Interesting.. but still only something for a techie... and compared to the current $12/yr, I'm not sure I'm even willing to do it. I do currently buy 50 GB from OneDrive for $1/mth, but moving to Office 365 person would get me 1 TB, plus all of the other benefits...

                                  So many options.

                                  Tons. If Lastpass didn't make it so easy...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    So what is the solution. I've been using Lastpass since 2008... I think I'm going to go through that account this week and pull out all the accounts I know I use on a regular basis and put them in a KeePass database.... no matter what I do this is going to be a long process.

                                    I'm Using KeePass + ownCloud to keep my database up to date on all of my machines.

                                    What do you do for mobile access?

                                    You can do the same, Owncloud has mobile clients and there is a mobile version of KeePass, but it's just clunky compared to LastPass.

                                    Ah I wasn't aware of mobile Keepass. The mobile version of ownCloud is fantastic (the more recent update was really nice)... so that could be doable for me.

                                    The fact that you have to manage your own ownCloud is the hassle here. I suppose you could OneDrive or google drive.

                                    Managing ownCloud is a breeze. I've been doing it for several years. Hosting it yourself is the issue I have right now. I know at some point in the future I am going to be in a situation that a decent internet connection just isn't available.

                                    Exactly. You have to pay to host it. If you're a home user, that's pretty unreasonable request. As a techie, we could buy a $5/month DO VM, but then we are at $5/month. Granted we get the rest of what we store there, but I'm sure at $5 the storage is limited.

                                    For $10/mo you could have a quarter TB on Vultr!

                                    Interesting.. but still only something for a techie... and compared to the current $12/yr, I'm not sure I'm even willing to do it. I do currently buy 50 GB from OneDrive for $1/mth, but moving to Office 365 person would get me 1 TB, plus all of the other benefits...

                                    So many options.

                                    Everyone seems to have some option ready to go, though. Who doesn't have SOME sort of account?

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                                    • W
                                      WingCreative
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                                      Sad - I tried LastPass a while back and ended up preferring KeePass, but I was recommending less tech-savvy people check out LastPass as recently as a month ago. I'm done doing that unless LMI actually responds to the outcry over this purchase in a meaningful way, and I wouldn't bet on that happening.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @WingCreative
                                        last edited by

                                        @WingCreative said:

                                        Sad - I tried LastPass a while back and ended up preferring KeePass, but I was recommending less tech-savvy people check out LastPass as recently as a month ago. I'm done doing that unless LMI actually responds to the outcry over this purchase in a meaningful way, and I wouldn't bet on that happening.

                                        They responded to the outcry about LMI itself by breaking the product, making it worthless and raising the price even more.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver I actually don't use it on my mobile. I'd be interested in a Mobile version of KeePass, for sure... But if I need to do something on a web site (that I can't remember the password for) from my phone... I connect up to my home network and use RDP to my Desktop. lol.

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                                          • DanpD
                                            Danp
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                                            I've been happily using Roboform Everywhere for a number of years...

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