@Minion-Queen I will see if we can get a seat at the table.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@dafyre Not really, honestly there are about 50 SKUs based on 4 basic concepts.
ROBO (extra small) Starts at a single 6-8 core and 96gb-256 ram with 3TB raw useable (not counting dedupe and compression)
Small 1-2 cpus of 8c to 22c ,128gb - 1.4tb ram, 7.2TB
Medium 1-2 cpus 8c -22c, 256gb-1.4tb ram, and 14TB
Large 1-2 cpus 8c-22c, 256-1.4tb ram, and 20TB low latency storage
All are sold as appliances, but we have a rather unique performance guarantee, so we like to work with our customer to come up with a design based on actual performance data, then we look to get a design that fits the workload and scales appropriately.
We guarantee our platform (really who else does that?) and you will find we have many happy healthy customers as we don't undersize to make a sale. We are exploding in the market due to our unique data virtualization platform, and our data protection capabilities. Usually a 3x ROI vs legacy.
I'm not sure that the east coast event will work out, and if it does that is outside of my region.
I consider myself to be a down to earth technician vs a sales'y kinda guy, so if it pleases the forum I would love to demo over (WEBEX) to anyone who is interested, in a LIVE environment of course, and also happy to run a performance capture and build a design for any of you. (this would be an exclusive event for Mangolassi users) with all the Q/A you want.
I quit my job it worked so well, and presented twice at VMWorld over it, really is a completely different way of storing data and most of us and our customers are quite passionate about it, but not in an angry hostile way like some others. It is a joy rather than an obsession.
At that point we would put real numbers behind it, and a guarantee, and you decide if you like it. Worst case you waste several hours of my time and get a great looking report of your current environment. at no cost.
Ok maybe I'm a little sales'
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@scottalanmiller This is great feedback. you are right I cant fix it, but again I feel personally responsible.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@JaredBusch Understood. When you compare to just the Hosts or servers, the TCO would be poor, however the cost of servers, storage, backup software, backup target, are usually higher as a whole. Throw in DR if its considered necessary, and the cost is usually 200% the cost of Simplivity.
We can replace all of that, and typically we reduce the sockets in the environment. In fact we support essentials plus for a 2+1 meaning 2 in an HA pair at prod and a single node at DR.
My partner and I have had some disscussions around the thread, and we are going to try to config an SMB bundle with a real street cost, it will be heavily discounted (like enterprises get) without the haggle.
If it meets the price point then great. If not then perhaps we aren't a good fit today.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@scottalanmiller I will forward your feedback to our Marketing team. This is valuable to us, as we are clearly not messaging our platform correctly.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@scottalanmiller Yes Purpose build accelerator card. This handles the Deduplication, Compression and Serialization of all data at inception across all tiers for the life of the data. I would love to deep dive as I have a very good presentation (I think) that I can share with you.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@scottalanmiller I cannot argue, ill simply excuse myself, with you being the victor, Ill up vote your post, but keep in mind I gave pricing in my first interaction with you. I'm the engineer, not the sales rep. This is an issue and you are right on every point.
However, being dismissive of a technology due to a non-negotiated price, without conversation is a questionable practice from my perspective. Are you doing your business a favor?
As an architect and customer I would shop features first, based on business objectives, then if the bill is too high, start having the conversation with the business to set expectations, and discuss alternatives. Not fighting you, just my personal perspective.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@Kelly Thanks Kelly, great insight, and for the record, when I'm asked for numbers I do give them, and will try to influence my peers to do the same.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@scottalanmiller Thanks for that Scott, will do.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@dafyre Thanks, I am not in a position to change that, however the issue is raised. I will assure you I will not dodge the question when presenting to anyone.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@Breffni-Potter Actually we have a large presence in UK, in fact we have our HQ for Support for the EMEA region in Cork, Ireland. We do around 47% of our rev outside the us. I'm sure there is local staff for you.
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@scottalanmiller Thanks Scott, I joined specifically to reply to the thread around Simplivity. Like you guys I am a passionate IT pro and hopefully I can provide value to the forum. Thanks again!
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
Guys,
I am an SA for SimpliVity in the Chicago area and I'm sorry to see the unhappiness around the presentation. I was unable to attend, but I would be happy to answer some of these items.
Dell was actually the first platform, we added Cisco and Lenovo.
The nodes run from the mid 20k to 150k,
We have a higher density per node than most. One node is the minimum, 2 provides full HA for both the compute and storage.We actually started with an SMB focus and began moving up channel. Again, very unfortunate that the messaging felt off.
Feel free to email me and I'm happy to jump on a webex to deep dive the tech and clear up anything else.
Cheers,
Rick
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
We can hit 44 physical cores, 1.4tb ram, and 20 tb useable before the dedupe and compression.
Because we can avoid redundant writes we can provide better performance than traditional storage.
Additionally our data virtualization platform is unique and gives us some capabilities that others struggle to provide.
I would love to coordinate a redo webex, no sales just technical with anyone who's interested.
Apologies for the way this webt, but I am passionate about the technology, and I understand the customer side better than most as I was one just a year and a half ago.
I ran SimpliVity as a client before working for them and I would be happy to share perspectives. -
RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@DustinB3403 That is in a single host. Dual 22 core v4 Intel.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@nadnerB Absolutely, thanks for giving us another listen.
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RE: Simplivity - anyone use them?
@JaredBusch OK Jared, point taken, however, other that relaying upwards that some prospective customers REALLY HATE not knowing a price range, there isn't a lot I can do to change the overall operations in the industry.
There is a reason we like to size the solution and its boils down, that if I tell you the smallest node price to avoid any sticker shock, you may take that and cut a po immediately, we still wouldn't know how many you need to meet IO, CPU, RAM, etc.
If everyone rattles off the largest node, you'll think wow that's really expensive, and its likely you don't need it. This isn't just ESXi hosts where we can size based on ram. It is a holistic building block for a datacenter. We are sizing servers, storage, backups, dr, and offsite recovery all in one exercise. So data collection is mandatory from an engineering perspective.
Frankly, I haven't seen anyone say they don't want the product after seeing whet we do and understanding the architecture. I was a customer a year and a half ago, and I get what your saying, if a vendor dodges the price we automatically assume its too expensive, and in some cases were right. you now our ballpark range, from my previous post, you be the judge.