@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.
have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.
ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!
@wirestyle22 said in Toilets of the World:
@Mike-Davis said in Toilets of the World:
@wirestyle22 said in Toilets of the World:
The mechanics of ass wiping: Mangolassi 2017
I bet @Minion-Queen never thought we'd get hereIntroductions to the expert panel: "And what countries have you pooped in?" "Can you tell us about a disaster recovery scenario?"
The benefits of redundant anuses
an advanced topic would be (and periodically we discuss with my wife just to joke):
"bidet: from front side or from back side? The expert's opinion."
@Dashrender this should explain why you do not drop water: you have the towel in fron of you and you dry over the bidet:
ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.
have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.
don't understand what gives more then mmc snap-in so I'm going to test it but at first install run both smart screen and antivirus screwed. just retrying now...
@BRRABill said in Toilets of the World:
@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
There's no soap in a didet, so how is just using water better than using paper to wipe your ass?
That's the part of this this whole thread has missed.
Wipe? With your hand?
Ugh. There's not enough water/soap in the world...
I look at this like I look at chopsticks. Humankind has invented a better way.
the ultimate bidet how-to.
(was tempted to write this on github but then... no)
1- you poo
2- you wipe with toilet paper
3- you was with water and soap
4- you dry with a towel <- specific ass towel not the same of your hands.
just as you was under the shower...
BTW, about squat toilets:
@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
Wow is all I can say - and that's a federal law?
well... state law, we are no federation. this is something put into the labor law by labor unions, when they talk/fight/do politics with government every time labor law has to be renewed.
@msff-amman-Itofficer bidet is somethig used mostly in mediterranean/middle east countries. even center europe has not bidet wide spread.
to put a bit of context, what @scottalanmiller found here, in Italy we call it "turca", litterally "turkish" (toilet).
This was (is?) the default in Turkey. In 38 years in Italy I've met them less then 10 times. never in a house, mostly in the 80s in public places close to highways.
main rational for them: you have not to touch anything to pee or poo just hang on your feet. anyway never pooed in... don't know how to manage it!
other rational: you just need to throw acid or similar on the floor to clean. nothing else.
don't know how turkish people manage it with childern. Also don't know what GPS navigator @scottalanmiller uses to hit them all! 
definitively a strange kind of toilet.
@scottalanmiller seriously, yes this is just a window manager as anything else. think of hyper-v server 2016 as a basic linux install + xorg + xinit launching an xterm.
it simply spawns 2 cmds one with proper cmd line, another with the sconfig.bat script runing in it. but it is the windows' window manager, without explorer and so.
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
nyway MY core is just around 8GB, small enough. Also microsoft has some issues with "no-gui". you go from core, which is something like linux cmd line + xserver + fluxbox, to something with no local management at all! ASAP nano can be managed only by remote powershell. No local login.
They allowed the whole switching from GUI to Core and vice versa in Server 2012 R2. They removed that ability in 2016 for good reason, imo.
But even in 2016 core, you can install apps easily... even in Hyper-V Server if it's licensed.no my point is: core is not guiless. it still run in a gui env. simply you do not have gui tools. but definitively it has a window manager, or you will land in a huge dos shell. period.
It's not considered a GUI, it's nothing but a way to handle the CMD shell (DOS shell disappeared decades ago and was never on Windows.) It does output to VGA, but there is no real GUI aspect. It's just not TTY.
still there is a window manager to handle multiple windows at a time. also you can run GUI tools (like firefox and so...).
it is not like a pure cmd line env a-la-linux
I've not tried that. You can fire up Firefox on it, really?
DONE!
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH
I've done something @scottalanmiller didn't!!!!!
@scottalanmiller said in Toilets of the World:
Common in Italy...
TBH NOT SO COMMON at least in the center-north, maybe i the south.
rather, this is common:
talking about number of packages, this has always been my reference:
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/
if a distro has it packaged it is quite sure they have anything 
both debian and suse have it.
in my experience Debian derivatives have always had the most rich package set out there. anyway corporates do not need any package but well known packages.
US is Red Hat, Europe is as split between Red Hat and SLES, but even here people is asking for Red Hat certification not SLES...
more dynamic versions of the distros are fedora and opensuse. they are just ahead of their respective corporate versions and stay more uptodate but less supported (no paid support). so learning fedora is learning red hat. same fits with opensuse <- >SLES.
just mind that when a new tech is introduced in fedora/opensuse, corporates can still lag and use previous stuff. Well, this is actually more true for red hat/fedora than for opensuse/SLES, in fact the latter has aligned their releases (more or less).
debian is a different world: no corporate support behind it, so no gain in corporate envs. Ubuntu is a derivative which tries to provide corporate support, but, honestly, it is not their stronger point at all.
@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
@matteo-nunziati said in How flexible are your hours?:
@Dashrender sometimes in smaller companies. this is the fact: italian labor law requires companies to give 2 hours OR either give compensation in salary (for you to be eating out of your house) or provide a canteen service (is canteen the right term?).
Interesting - If they can't give you 2 hours off at lunch, they have to give you money so you can buy food away from your home. Now that's a first. I've never heard of that before.
yes. currently this is aound 5€ per working day. in fact stuff like ticket restaurant and so provide similar value.
small companies simply say: take 2 hours and do whatever you want. This is my first time with 2 hours. asways been in the 45'-1h range.
So you were either paid, what we call a stipend ( a predetermined amount to cover some expense) or they provided lunch (would canteen imply that you had to have a choice in what you are eating, like a buffet? or at least more than one option?)
if companies build their own canteen (just bigger companies) or make agreements with local ones (this is more common but still seldom in small businesses), yes this is something like this:
When companies do not provide 2 hours, the most simple thing is to provide ticket-restaurant-like stuff. Then you go in the closer place where you can use it!
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
nyway MY core is just around 8GB, small enough. Also microsoft has some issues with "no-gui". you go from core, which is something like linux cmd line + xserver + fluxbox, to something with no local management at all! ASAP nano can be managed only by remote powershell. No local login.
They allowed the whole switching from GUI to Core and vice versa in Server 2012 R2. They removed that ability in 2016 for good reason, imo.
But even in 2016 core, you can install apps easily... even in Hyper-V Server if it's licensed.no my point is: core is not guiless. it still run in a gui env. simply you do not have gui tools. but definitively it has a window manager, or you will land in a huge dos shell. period.
It's not considered a GUI, it's nothing but a way to handle the CMD shell (DOS shell disappeared decades ago and was never on Windows.) It does output to VGA, but there is no real GUI aspect. It's just not TTY.
still there is a window manager to handle multiple windows at a time. also you can run GUI tools (like firefox and so...).
it is not like a pure cmd line env a-la-linux
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
Also dropping Nano from being a supported path sucks for people who were hoping for it to be a true small secure embedded install (Core requires a 32GB DISK!)
I think he means nano is available only for those with a datacenter licence.
Well that makes perfect sense, because Hyper-V Server is free, and does just Hyper-V. Nano Server should not be free, because it can do a LOT of things, in addition to Hyper-V. The list is long, and continues to grow.
Also, there's two versions of Nano Server: Datacenter and Standard
so nano is available even to standard! nice! I was misinformed.
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
nyway MY core is just around 8GB, small enough. Also microsoft has some issues with "no-gui". you go from core, which is something like linux cmd line + xserver + fluxbox, to something with no local management at all! ASAP nano can be managed only by remote powershell. No local login.
They allowed the whole switching from GUI to Core and vice versa in Server 2012 R2. They removed that ability in 2016 for good reason, imo.
But even in 2016 core, you can install apps easily... even in Hyper-V Server if it's licensed.
no my point is: core is not guiless. it still run in a gui env. simply you do not have gui tools. but definitively it has a window manager, or you will land in a huge dos shell. period.
@scottalanmiller said in Zevenet load balancer:
Not one that I know, you going to deploy it?
no, my env doesn't need a load balancer, but it popped out on distrowatch and I linked it! anyway underlying tech doesn't seem the best choice.
@Breffni-Potter said in EU slaps Google with record $2.7 billion fine:
Well, has it ever done a bad job?
I put as much faith in the EU antitrust committee as I do in a lottery ticket.
they simply do not know what they are doing. anyway you cannot expect much from a bunch of people that discussed a lot on how you have to call a marmalade....
@Breffni-Potter I use google in 2 ways: either to have a quick link to amazon or to seach in shopping for other platforms.
I suppose if you click on shopping third parties will pay for advertisement, but to be honest the entire thing is BS!
like cookie allerts or microsoft asking if you really want to change edge...
