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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      @stacksofplates said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @stacksofplates said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Is Starwind available on Linux yet?

      Yes

      Just the appliance? I was looking this morning on my phone and got tired of searching.

      Well, only quite limited amount of people got access to our Linux-based virtual storage appliance so far. We plan (I hold my breath here) to release new unrestricted StarWind free upcoming week and an official VSA thing is going to follow after that next-next week. Stay tuned ๐Ÿ˜‰

      https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san-ovf

      P.S. There are no plans to support Linux bare metal for now. We need your feedback guys and gals!

      posted in Water Closet
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016

      @momurda said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:

      You will have to buy Windows Super Server Edition 2016 to get this functionality. At twice the price.
      Seriously, that blurb says that MS is 'thrilled' about adoption of Storage Spaces Direct

      "Storage Spaces Direct was introduced in Windows Server 2016 and is the foundation for our hyper-converged platform. We have been thrilled by the positive adoption of the Microsoft hyper-converged platform and we are committed to our customers."

      so why take it away?

      Don't listen to anything people say, watch what they DO.

      posted in News
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: How are you using SMR based drives?

      We're working with Seagate now to make their 8TB (and 10 and 14 soon) drives usable for ANYTHING but it turns out even log-structured file system eliminating random and small writes does not help much. Still trying to find a solution, no ETA yet.

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: The VSA is the Ugly Result of Legacy Vendor Lock-Out

      @travisdh1 said in The VSA is the Ugly Result of Legacy Vendor Lock-Out:

      @Breffni-Potter said in The VSA is the Ugly Result of Legacy Vendor Lock-Out:

      Is this really the case? I'm sceptical that a VMWare or HyperV or even a XenServer based system would have that huge a difference in performance requirements compared with a Scale system.

      "24 vCores and up to 300GB RAM (depending on the vendor) just to power the VSAโ€™s and boot themselves vs HES using a fraction of a core per node and 6GB RAM total. Efficiency matters."

      Is this genuine or is it a flippant example? If it's genuine...shut up and take my money.

      From Starwind's LSFS FAQ
      "How much RAM do I need for LSFS device to function properly?
      4.6 MB of RAM per 1 GB of LSFS device with disabled deduplication,
      7.6 MB of RAM per 1 GB of LSFS device with enabled deduplication.
      "

      So, yeah, could easily eat up that much ram. ~7.6GB RAM per TB of storage.

      I didn't spot the CPU recommendation, but I know it's beefy.

      you don't always use LSFS with starwind

      and if you use lsfs you don't always enable dedupe

      and we're offloading hash tables for nvme flash now so upcoming update will have ZERO overhead for dedupe

      supported combinations are

      1. flash for capacity and ram for hash tables => FAAAAAAAAAST !!

      2. spinning disk for capacity and nvme flash for hash tables => somehow slower but because of a spinning disk of course

      posted in Self Promotion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course

      @worden2 said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

      @kooler said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

      @mlnews said in Stanford Removes Java in Favor of JavaScript in Intro to Computer Science Course:

      In a bit of a surprise move in the educational space, computer science bulwark Stanford University has chosen to remove Java and replace it with JavaScript in their Intro to Computer Science class. Java has been the language of this somewhat famous class since 2002, a run of fifteen years. They say that Java is showing its age, although to be fair JavaScript is nearly as old. Java itself is 22 years old this year. Since being purchased by Oracle, interest in Java has slowly fallen from its lofty peak during stewardship under Sun.

      Anybody who's starting with anything except assembly language is WRONG!!! If somebody doesn't know how CPU works he can't make a decent software engineer: he'll use bloatware, write things in interpreted languages and bring file systems to kernel from user-land.

      As a matter of purity or getting down to basics when introducing concepts, I agree. But, when you're talking about trying to introduce CS concepts to people new to the field assembly is a nightmare. I had some simple assembly as part of intro CS when in college, but it almost soured me completely on programming. Of course, what really killed my nascent interest in programming (in college) was having to learn Cobol... ๐Ÿ™‚ Perhaps it's safe to say that the closer you get to the kernel the more you need assembly?

      Nope, modern kernel is developed in C and some C++ mostly.

      Its really about basics: if you don't know how hardware works and how expensive f.e. thread content switch is you'll write something looking very cool and simple and it actually crinkles and mangles on a real hardware.

      posted in Developer Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Server and Storage Redundancy

      @JaredBusch said in Server and Storage Redundancy:

      I disagree with how everyone here pushes starwind as this wonder answer. It is a great product, but Hyper-V replication works quite well for the SMB that only needs a single server compute node, yet wants to have some failover redundancy. It is simple, baked in, and no third party tools required.

      I'll cross-post from SpiceWorks as I've been writing a Veeam Vs Hyper-V replica wrap up post recently and it's mostly what OP is asking here as well.

      -->

      You come up with a set of numbers:

      1. RTO (how much downtime you can afford?) and RPO (how much data you can lose?)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_time_objective

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_point_objective

      1. Budget

      So...

      ...if you can't afford much of a downtime and you can't afford to lose data you do implement some BC strategy: Windows failover cluster, HA VMs, FCI with SQL Server if you don't do AAG paying huge $$$ for SQL / Enterprise version etc and these would need HA storage (physical or virtual). Then you probably need some of our stuff (or some competitors, HP VSA is a good option if you care, upcoming Windows Server 2016 will have similar storage technology also if you'll go Datacente all-around and increase amount of licensed nodes). Most of these options are paid expect maybe self-made ones (you pay with your own labor), free 1TB HP VSA and also you can get free hyperconverged StarWind as well on a special request (search this forum there's a SpiceWorks path for that). This approach may add some $$$ requirements (+๏ปฟCapEx) and also for sure will make you work more to setup and support the final solution (+๏ปฟOpEx). <-- Do only if you REALLY NEED THIS !!

      ...if you can afford reasonable downtime (minutes, half of hour, hours maybe - time to recover your VM from some backup, depends on amount of data your VMs hold) and you can lose some data on manual failover or replication increment (again, some minutes typically) go w/out shared storage, run VMs from DAS but always use some good VM backup. Obviously Veeam is a good candidate for that. <-- Do this ALWAYS !! You can't run production w/out a backup solution !!

      +๏ปฟ you need some backup storage and I don't see you mentioning you have one. You can't backup to yourself so cheap two-disk NetGear or maybe some off-site cloud space should help.

      I don't recommend using Hyper-V Replica because it a) doesn't play nice with some apps officially (Exchange, SQL Server some scenarios, any VMs depending on each other) and b) steals IOPS from your system (twice as many writes now are needed, RAID10 is already half on writes so you get 1/4 of your disks so far, close to RAID5 write penalty now), and c) has dangerous "autofailover" option implemented with PowerShell script (see link below in P.S.), you really don't want to do that as there's no brain split issue protection, orchestration site should be a separate, say running in Azure but that's more $$$ and labor) d) make you think you're safe with VM replication while you really need a BACKUP. <-- Use Veeam Backup & Replication for both VM replication and VM backup, this money definitely pays you back.

      That's it ๐Ÿ˜‰

      TL;DR: Don't buy StarWind unless you really need to and buy Veeam always.

      P.S. In case you'll decide to implement a crazy "two Hyper-V hosts replicate to each other and here's my poor' mans pseudo-HA system" scenario here's a link for you:

      https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/keithmayer/2012/10/05/automated-disaster-recovery-testing-and-fa...

      Again, I don't recommend doing that and there are reasons above why exactly.

      <--

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: For MangoLassi.it Forum Geeks: StarWind Virtual SAN NFR (not-for-resale) License!

      Guys anybody having issues with a keys and slow response please don't hesitate to contact me directly. I'll be happy to bring you in touch with a proper people ๐Ÿ˜‰

      posted in Self Promotion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Need a Good Bottle of Scotch

      @thanksajdotcom said in Need a Good Bottle of Scotch:

      So I wanted suggestions from people on here for a good bottle of scotch. I'm looking for something in the $100 price range, maybe even a little more. Was just looking for any ideas people might have. Thanks!

      Glenmorangie (company re-launched single malts into user space)

      Glenlivet 12-15-18 (I actually prefer 15) <-- I you don't like one of those go get some Pepsi, I'm serious

      Macallan - expensive Glenlivet

      ...

      (these are classic)

      You can read some of my reviews here:

      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1085003-whiskey-lovers-thread

      What do you guys think if I'd create a whiskey thread here on MangoLassi as well?

      AK

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: StarWind vs Storage Spaces Direct

      Guys appreciate your time and trust. I'm currently in London on a SpiceWorld so a bit head over the heals. Give me a day or two and I'll write some detailed story here. LOTS of things to mention.

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Converting to a virtual environment

      @scottalanmiller said in Converting to a virtual environment:

      @PRPL said in Converting to a virtual environment:

      @scottalanmiller said in Converting to a virtual environment:

      @PRPL said in Converting to a virtual environment:

      I did look @ the free Starwind Virtual SAN, but from what I read, I understand that the free version will allow only storage and not compute, on the same host... That's allowed, only in the paid version... ??

      I've never heard of that limitation. that would be a new and surprising one. I'm quite confident that you can put your storage on your compute nodes.

      Checking with @KOOLER @StarWind_Software

      I'm making this statement, based on my understanding of the Free vs Paid document, found on https://www.starwindsoftware.com/whitepapers/free-vs-paid.pdf

      Please look @ the comparison on the second-last page of this PDF... It says, next to Deployment Scenarios , that Hyperconvergence, is available only for Certain User Statuses (Check Status)

      that does appear to say that, but goes against hundreds of posts from the company so I think that this might be outdated.

      You're absolutely correct! Making long story short: somebody should try real hard NOT to get anything from us! Even if people don't fall down into listed categories and aren't eligible we still give away everything on a personal request. Just because ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Referenced from the document link brings here:

      https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-nfr-license-users

      StarWind Virtual SAN Free is a convenient and self-sufficient software, but in comparison with the commercial version, it has restricted functionality and features. It easily turns a pair of commodity servers into fault-tolerant SAN and NAS, but supports only Converged architecture, does not and provides only cloud-based asynchronous replication, etc. The full comparison of StarWind VSAN and VSAN Free can be found here. In case some of the features of the commercial version are needed for test and development, home lab or POC (Proof of Concept), there is still a way to obtain them.

      StarWind highly values virtualization specialists and tries to assist them in every possible way, that is why professionals and students of the sphere can get a free license of StarWind Virtual SAN without restrictions and with all features enabled. Here is the list of users who can apply for this license:
      Microsoft MVPs
      MCTs (Microsoft Certified Trainers)
      MCPs (Microsoft Certified Professionals)
      SpiceHeads of at least โ€œJalapenoโ€ level
      Consultants
      Students
      VMware vExperts
      VCPs (VMware Certified Professionals)
      Trainers

      Mangolassi members of reputation 200+

      Bloggers

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • Windows Server 2016 / Storage Spaces Direct

      Guys, anybody played with them so far? Any chances to hear your feedback? How many of you have all-Datacenter editions of Hyper-V / Windows installed (ones eligible to S2D/ SR upgrade n the future)?

      Thanks!

      Anton

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Microsoft SQL Server and recording software

      DFS-R has issues with a distributed locks (it got none actually, need expensive third-party software to do bolt-on) so I'd recommend something less complicated ๐Ÿ˜‰

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: CP - Dell vs HP server quotes

      @DustinB3403 said in CP - Dell vs HP server quotes:

      I've received two quotes for new server hardware - one from our local reseller and one directly from Dell. As far as I can tell, the two quotes are identical spec-wise but the local reseller is almost $12k more expensive. Here are the two quotes:

      Quote from Dell:
      2x Dell PowerEdge R430 servers $6,665.60

      • 2x Xeon E5-2630 v3 CPUs
      • 2x 32 GB RDIMM
      • Diskless configuration
        1x Dell SCv2020 iSCSI SAN $10,303.26
      • 14x Dell 1.2 TB SAS 12GB, 10k, 2.5" HD
        1x Dell N2048 gigabit switch $1,693.49

      TOTAL: $18,662.35

      HP Quote from local reseller:
      2x HP ProLiant DL360 servers $7,266.00

      • 2x Xeon E5-2630 v3 CPUs
      • 64 GB RAM (unknown configuration)
      • Diskless configuration
        1x HP MSA 2040 SAN $20,932.00
      • 14x HP MSA 1.2 TB 10K SAS 2.5in drives
      • includes $5,850 in labor so actual price
        is only $15,082
        1x Cisco Catalyst 2960-X gigabit switch $2,320.00

      TOTAL: $30,518.00

      Difference: $11,855.65

      Is there any reason why I should choose the HP solution over the Dell solution? I will be running vSphere 6 on these servers. I'm not familiar with managing either server line so either way I'll be learning new management tools. When it comes to support I think I trust my local reseller more than Dell but $12k extra is hard to stomach just for that.

      [Edit: CP Code M.]

      Support is Dell-Pro-Support either you're bbuying direct from Dell. from VAR. MSP and system integrators or OEMs like Nutanix, SimpliVity or StarWind (grin) add some extra support on top because they own the whole thing. Every hardware issue still ends with DPS unless VAR/SI/OEM will ship a replacement part and own engineer BEFORE Dell will handle that. But... with 4 hours SLA I don't think you need more (for big $$$).

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Ideas for how to use new, free gear from HPE?

      @scottalanmiller said in Ideas for how to use new, free gear from HPE?:

      So the good options are....

      If you want high availability from your storage, which doesn't make a lot of sense since you have only one blade chassis, so no failover should it have any issue, you would likely get an HA SAN which would either be something like a 3PAR or something like a dual Proliant Starwind cluster. @KOOLER

      If you don't want high availability, but are just going to add reasonable low cost storage to make the blades have some place to store VMs, then a single Proliant based SAM-SD running CentOS or FreeBSD is perfect.

      Easy! I'm pushing really hard to release now pre-built ESXi, KVM and Xen Virtual Machine based appliances to get this done free of charge and with as small traction as possible!

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Views on Halizard

      @Dashrender said in Views on Halizard:

      @scottalanmiller said in Views on Halizard:

      HALizard probably doesn't make sense soon as Starwind is about to be free.

      I still don't understand this move - but it is awesome!

      1. we make more and more money from appliances
      2. competition on SDS market alone gets stiffer (more competitors every day there are 2-3 companies coming out from the closet)
      3. we're good guys and are trying to help to ones who don't have $ to buy but still short in time to do 100% DIY

      P.S. We'll keep free version CLI-managed, like Hyper-V is. Initially Linux-based VSA with a web mgmt will be free as well but I don't know for how long and what limitations we'll put into Linux VSA one. More info to come soon closer to release ๐Ÿ˜‰

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Hyper V replica VS Veeam B&R Replica.

      @openit said in Hyper V replica VS Veeam B&R Replica.:

      Hi all,

      This is my future plan to setup Windows Server Redundancy ( DC+File Server).

      Part 1: Physical Server

      Currently our DC + File Server is running on one Physical Server. Is there any option at all for physical server replication ? with other server, so that we can make second server as primary manually or automatically in case of main server failure ?

      Part 2: Virtual Server

      I believe, physical server replication is not available and VM Replica is the best option.

      Now I am trying to understand Hyper V Free Replica VS Veeam Replica Paid:

      1. Hyper V Replica : I know it's poor man's DC. So there should some limitations or hard work as it comes for free. For me, redundancy matters and ok with Veeam pricing.

      2. Hyper V Failover Cluster : As it will require two virtual servers (of course best option to be on different servers), so two physical servers and SAN/NAS, which is out of budget (not an option for me) and I know don't understand how it's redundant incase of SAN failure ?

      3. Veeam B&R Replica Standard : I have chosen standard (perpetual) , as it's ok for pricing and features. Here my confusion is, as it's saying Backup and Replication, for the Backup if we set backup target to NAS, it's fine,

      a) But for replication we should set target to Physical Server ? which is with Hyper-V, so that we can Fire UP to make it as primary server in case of Actual Server failure, right ? I believe everything will be up and runs normally within some 30 minutes with around 1 hour data loss (let's say) ?

      b) Once the main (original) server is okay and ready to run again (from failure), how about changed/updated data with secondary server ?( which was acting as primary server), whether Veeam software will update back ?

      c) How it's going to work as Backup ? as it's replicating with all changes at the same time (like mirroring) ? Is that because of restore point or versioning of replica ?

      Thanks for your time !!

      You still need VM backup because you can't live with VM replication only. So if you got Veeam for VM backup - just leave VM replication to Veeam as well! ๐Ÿ˜‰

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Hyper-converged infrastructure (I missed the storage part)

      @scottalanmiller said in Hyper-converged infrastructure (I missed the storage part):

      @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Hyper-converged infrastructure (I missed the storage part):

      Why sometimes I hear about users running BTRFS or ZFS insides VMs and then allocating that storage to other VMs. Is this normal ?

      No, that is not normal nor sensible unless you are building high availability clustering within those VMs. But you would not likely use BtrFS or ZFS for this, but more typically a clustered file system like GFS2. More or less, anytime you hear of someone using ZFS it's for something incredibly stupid. ZFS is amazing and I've been working with it for twelve years, but the recent belief that it is magic is just another example of SMB IT people hearing a word and deciding that since they don't understand it, it must be magic.

      There are good times to do what you describe here, it's called a VSA approach. Vendors like @StarWind_Software and @HPEStorageGuy do this, but they don't do it with ZFS, they have custom software that handles HA clustering, that they do it in a VM is just a limitation of their access to the underlying hypervisor. VMware used to do this, but has VSAN now. Starwind only does this on non-Hyper-V platforms, on Hyper-V they skip the VM and run right on the hypervisor itself.

      Building your own HA Storage VMs on top of your hypervisor is certainly possible, but is most definitely an "expert level" process. And what is available to build for yourself is quite limited. For all intents and purposes, doing this in this manner will only be done with either Starwind or HPE VSA products, this is exactly what they are built for and they both do it very well.

      Just a tiny remark: depending on how VM does actual storage virtualization it can be either slow (doing data wires over vSwitch and using TCP) or extremely fast (PCI pass through or SR-IOV network and storage adapters inside a VM and using VM's vCPU(s) in polling mode), so it's not always beneficial to have in-kernel implementation of something.

      Virtual Storage Appliance

      https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san-ovf

      FYI ๐Ÿ™‚

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Mirror spinning disk to SSD?

      @Mike-Davis said in Mirror spinning disk to SSD?:

      I had an HPE drive fail in a server under warranty. I don't have the drive in hand yet, but the field tech told me that the replacement drive is a 1TB SSD. The old drive was a 1TB mechanical. The drives were mirrored.

      Can I swap out a HDD for a SSD, let it mirror and then swap out the other HDD? I know in general you want the drives to be identical, and everything will slow down to the HDD, but since it's for a one time mirror, it seems like it could work.

      You'd better run your workload on SSD and use HDD as a backup destination. Mirroring SSD + HDD isn't going to make anybody any good: speed of a fleet is limited with a slowest ship in it (read - HDD in our context).

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: ExaGrid

      @NerdyDad said in ExaGrid:

      Anybody heard of it? Thoughts?

      At a Veeam User Group and ExaGrid is sponsoring it. The salesman gives a nice presentation of course, but I want to hear from experiences people on this one.

      This is what you really want/need:

      Restoronix

      Decent hardware platform + software you know how to use (Windows Server + Veeam) + support in truly fire-n-forget mode.

      In the worst case you'll re-provision non-proprietary hardware after EOL.

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
    • RE: Should I build it myself (iSCSI Storage) or use AS5008T ?

      @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Should I build it myself (iSCSI Storage) or use AS5008T ?:

      Hello,

      I have this product in my country, selling for 1000$ which due to my country have high taxes.

      It supports the following:

      Windows + Mac + Linux cross-platform file sharing
      A multimedia hub for your photos, music and movies
      Your complete backup solution
      Support for RAID 0,1,5,6,10 and hard drive hot swapping
      Equipped with 4 Ethernet ports that support failover and link aggregation
      > SMB 2/3 support increases Windows networking performance by 30%-50%

      And while i am looking at its features and and even Vmware certifications for NFS I am pleasantly encouraged to by this product for my company. bu I cant help but wonder what stuff like SAM-SD does, I mean why cant I use a full fledged OS and good motherboard and fill it up with the same WD RED NAS HDD and create RAID 10 , and have the benefit of full fledged OS. I am certain Centos 7 can do this, Wondering what are your thoughts cause I reckon it would be alot cheaper for 1000$to get motherboard + CPU + case + Ram and it should do more and beyond than this device with its crammed linux, and my device can be updated faster and easier. Wondering what are the risks, or it all depends on how competent you're in doing this, if your competent enough going your own path and making your own server is better, right ?

      Sorry for any typos writing this with the monitor turned off, due to recent Epi-LASIK

      The only reliable SMB3 stack comes from Microsoft, so be ready to spend $800 on Windows Server Standard (unless you're ready to abuse MSFT licensing and use free Hyper-V Server for that purpose). Samba doesn't go anywhere anytime soon IMHO ๐Ÿ˜ž

      Yeah, this is exactly what you want most probably. No hardware vendor will give you any flexibility SAM-SD has.

      posted in IT Discussion
      KOOLERK
      KOOLER
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