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@Dashrender said:

Again the competitors being Zambra, on-prem Exchange, not O365.

I assume you mean 'Zimbra'.

@Dashrender said:

[...] Axigen competes with On-Premise Exchange, Zambra, Domino, etc.

Yes!

@scottalanmiller said:

Oh wait, there we go. It took seven minutes for a "body" field to pop up to type into!

Had devs look at this issue and it is specific to the demo site. Probably it will be optimized by the time you are in Transylvania ;). Will take the demo site offline for 5-10 mins now...

@scottalanmiller said:

So I'm testing it now. First thing I notice is that Bogdan's face pops up immediately wanting to talk to me

That's not present in the on-premise trial

@aaronstuder said:

@axigen can you get me a direct download link for the RPM? I want to use wget

Here it is: https://www.axigen.com/usr/files/axigen-10.0.0/axigen-10.0.0.x86_64.rpm.run

@scottalanmiller said:

@axigen said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I hate Word documents... so hard to copy/paste here...

Point 3: Summarizing is that the web interface just rocks.

This is a hard one to quantify and would need to be played around with. This was Zimbra's point against Exchange a decade ago, their web client was better (according to everyone I knew and even eWeek) than Outlook's fat client. Has Zimbra kept up? No. Is it bad, no. It is pretty good. But there is a lot of room for someone like Axigen to make a vastly superior web client experience here. This is where I would see a potential (but I have no idea yet) place for them to swoop in with value. Zimbra hasn't stopped here, but they've slowed to nearly the point of stagnation. They kind of gave up with 'good enough' and let it go for too long. Much like Exchange in other areas.

I'd be open to playing with Axigen here and seeing if this holds up.

Go to www.axigen.com and click the WebMail Demo

Oh sure, make me jump through all of these hoops....

It's easy. Trust me, I'm an engineer turned MBA

@scottalanmiller said:

I hate Word documents... so hard to copy/paste here...

Point 3: Summarizing is that the web interface just rocks.

This is a hard one to quantify and would need to be played around with. This was Zimbra's point against Exchange a decade ago, their web client was better (according to everyone I knew and even eWeek) than Outlook's fat client. Has Zimbra kept up? No. Is it bad, no. It is pretty good. But there is a lot of room for someone like Axigen to make a vastly superior web client experience here. This is where I would see a potential (but I have no idea yet) place for them to swoop in with value. Zimbra hasn't stopped here, but they've slowed to nearly the point of stagnation. They kind of gave up with 'good enough' and let it go for too long. Much like Exchange in other areas.

I'd be open to playing with Axigen here and seeing if this holds up.

Go to www.axigen.com and click the WebMail Demo

@scottalanmiller said:

@axigen said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Point 2: We put a lot of effort to make Axigen run on the widest platform range. Choose what fits you — from Windows to many Linux flavors , BSD, or Solaris and feel free to switch anytime.

It's more than Linux and Windows and that's important because lots of people go after those two. Being officially supported on BSD and Solaris is really nice. I'm not going to say that it is a huge benefit, but it is a small one and a nice feature. I'd love to run my email on BSD or Solaris, rather than Linux, but that's pretty minor as long as it runs on CentOS. But that's me, I'm the .01% here. For nearly anyone, it is going to be Linux of some flavour. Because of the "non-open" nature, I'm sure that there is a solid Windows deploy base that open solutions do not have because they are going after the "we don't want open" market as well, which open products obviously cannot go after.

We do have large SPs that run on Solaris as well as BSD taking advantage of ZFS to the fullest.

LOL, I've got plenty of opinion on ZFS as well Not that it isn't good, I've worked with the ZFS team in fact, just that it is overused and misused way too often in the SMB.

I'm intrigued that you have lots of users on those platforms, though. Very good to hear. Can you disclose... are they non-US customers? That seems a very non-American deployment strategy.

Let's meet face to face tomorrow over a cup of coffee and we'll chat more. How long you'll be in Bucharest?

@scottalanmiller said:

@axigen said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@axigen I'm sure I could look this up but while you are here... where in Europe are you based?

we are in Bucharest, Romania, here: https://www.axigen.com/about-us/contact/

That's what I was wondering and damn... you won't believe this.... I'll be there in a few hours. Packing for the flight literally as we speak. I leave at 5:30 am for Bucharest.

Would you like to meet tomorrow ;)?

@scottalanmiller said:

Point 2: We put a lot of effort to make Axigen run on the widest platform range. Choose what fits you — from Windows to many Linux flavors , BSD, or Solaris and feel free to switch anytime.

It's more than Linux and Windows and that's important because lots of people go after those two. Being officially supported on BSD and Solaris is really nice. I'm not going to say that it is a huge benefit, but it is a small one and a nice feature. I'd love to run my email on BSD or Solaris, rather than Linux, but that's pretty minor as long as it runs on CentOS. But that's me, I'm the .01% here. For nearly anyone, it is going to be Linux of some flavour. Because of the "non-open" nature, I'm sure that there is a solid Windows deploy base that open solutions do not have because they are going after the "we don't want open" market as well, which open products obviously cannot go after.

We do have large SPs that run on Solaris as well as BSD taking advantage of ZFS to the fullest.

@scottalanmiller said:

@axigen I'm sure I could look this up but while you are here... where in Europe are you based?

we are in Bucharest, Romania, here: https://www.axigen.com/about-us/contact/

@scottalanmiller said:

[...] the lack of a response as to why it has benefits.

If you have the time, please start with the PDF provided...

@RojoLoco No, @aaronstuder does not work Axigen.

@scottalanmiller said:

No, it is normal software, as we originally thought. Not hosted.

You are right @scottalanmiller. On the other hand, we do have also a "hosting"-like business but it is dedicated to large SPs that want a hybrid on-premies / Managed Services / license mix. The offer is a little more complex to be summarized here.

We tried to synthesize the top 10 benefits that we see in our product/services mix here: https://www.axigen.com/usr/files/Why-Choose-Axigen.pdf

The list is high-level and incomplete but, for skimming purposes, it is a good start.

@scottalanmiller and @Service-Providers would love to receive your feedback.

@DustinB3403 said:

Is axigen supposed to be a competitor to O365?

The server side runs on Linux and management / support is provided by Axigen?

Axigen does not compete with O356. We are a software company providing a software product that can be used on multiple operating systems by business and service providers alike.

@scottalanmiller said:

You popped in and only mentioned false information as value. I would not call this skimming... I'd call this "no reason to continue looking."

In my opinion, I did not provide any false info.

@scottalanmiller said:

If you have deep value, let us know what it is. Don't make it an attack on something you've stated you know nothing about. Instead of attacking open source, tell us where YOU create value.

I am not attacking open source. Far from me. Please point out where I have done that and I will retract.
Axigen has a very easy way to setup and manage multi-node clusters. Axigen has a high density of users on a single node. Axigen has a modern interface and a easy to use WebAdmin interface. Axigen has a Provisioning API that allows easy integration with various BSS systems.

Also I'd note that this initial thread here is not started by us. We were invited by @aaronstuder. I hoped that this would be a constructive conversation.

@scottalanmiller said:

None of those things are brought by closed source, that's totally incorrect. Open source does all of those equally. The ONLY difference is in value and protections to the customers.

The customers that think that that is the value have to be clueless as all of that is wrong. Very, very confused customers.

I wonder, how much would be the services that we are taking about from Zimbra. You may know, as I do not! So value is to be observed when looking more in-depth not when skimming an offer.
It is your personal choice to label value on skimming techniques.
They may work well for you and may not be a good fit for others.

@scottalanmiller said:

Closed source is always a negative for the customer. So for closed source to compete, it must compete on ground that open source doesn't cover, or go for really clueless customers.

First of all I do appreciate and respect your preference!
A closed source brings various benefits: Commercial Support (in various levels), Managed Services, On-demand integrations, Professional Services, etc. There are customers (and I would refrain from calling them clueless) that value these.

@scottalanmiller the topic you address is valid and wide. On the other hand, why would commercial closed source exist anyway? Our product can be trialed for 30 days - no feature limitation. Should you be interested in an in-depth analysis on how Axigen could benefit a SP, I would be more than glad to chat/skype with you.
Bogdan Moldovan