So to recap. Wifi Sense isn't the end of the world, but it should be used carefully.
Posts made by Alex Sage
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
My access point could feed my whole apartment
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
My guest network is completely open. I don't want to have to give out the password to guests.
I login from time to time, and take a look at who is using the guest network, and if I saw a bunch of people using it, I might have to lock it down.
I know I am lucky to live in a small town.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
CNN Money
Should you stop using it?
You're probably safe using Wi-Fi Sense.
All these nightmare scenarios are possible ... but farfetched. Even the worst-case scenario -- a stalker using Wi-Fi Sense to steal your naked photos -- would require that person to sit outside your house with a Windows 10 PC while he hacks into your network.
But if you do want to protect those naked photos and you shared your network via Wi-Fi Sense you can stop that. Windows 10 lets you do that in settings (it takes a few days to register). You can also opt your network out of Wi-Fi Sense entirely by adding the phrase "_optout" to the end of your Wi-Fi network's name.http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/30/technology/windows10-wifi-sense/
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
Most people give out their Wi-Fi keys freely. You could even argue that Wi-Fi Sense is more secure: if I ask Adam for his Wi-Fi password, I am free to give it away to anyone. If I receive the password via Wi-Fi Sense, I can still connect to Adam's network, but I can't tell anyone else the password.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
Let's remember that You have to manually opt into every Wi-Fi network that you want to share.
For every network you join, you'll be asked if you want to share it with your friends/social networks.
By default, if you choose Express Settings during the installation process, Wi-Fi Sense is turned on in Windows 10.
However, it doesn't actually do anything until two things occur:
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First, you need to sign in with a Microsoft account. Wi-Fi Sense won't work with a local account.
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Whenever you connect to a new W-Fi network, it asks if you want to share it with other people.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch Aren't you concerned that Microsoft is still storing your password somewhere?
Just because you stop sharing it, doesn't mean it wasn't already exposed.
It seem to me the only way to make sure your secure, is to change your wifi password.
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All the examples given here are a long shot at best.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
@anonymous said:
Me too, but isn't the risk the same? How do you know they can't use the Guest wifi to access your main network? What if they torrent? Seems like you would be safer to just not let anyone on your network.
I monitor my AP like any trained person would do. Yes, user will not, but I do. I don't care if they torrent. I have logs and proof that just because it was my IP, it was not my device on my private network.
That will never hold up in court. You are responsible for everything downloaded and uploaded.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
@anonymous said:
@JaredBusch are you not going your friends access to your network until you have made sure they have wifi sense disabled?
I have a guest WiFi SSID (WPA2 protected, weak password) with no access to my private network. This is not an issue for me for random people.
Yes, before anyone gets my main SSID password I will require it.
Me too, but isn't the risk the same? How do you know they can't use the Guest wifi to access your main network? What if they torrent? Seems like you would be safer to just not let anyone on your network.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
Do not try to push it on the user. That is a cop out long the lines of "Just blame the user for not reading the EULA."
If you ran someone over would you blame the car?
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch are you not going your friends access to your network until you have made sure they have wifi sense disabled?
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The real issue was you selected "Express Setup" without reading what it was doing.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
@anonymous said:
@scottalanmiller business networks aren't allowed to be shared.
Your linked article actually says exactly the opposite.
@your_linked_article said:
Fortunately, it appears that Wi-Fi Sense does not share credentials from networks that are secured with additional authentication protocols, such as corporate networks that use 802.1x EAP. However, if your office Wi-Fi is secured with a simple WPA/WPA2 key, you probably shouldn't share that network with Wi-Fi Sense.
Why is your business using a simple WPA2 key?
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
Here is a record of my wifi hotspot. 1 block from my house, before I moved a month ago.
If you so worried about it why not hide your SSID and enabled MAC address filtering. Both provide no real security by the way.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@scottalanmiller business networks aren't allowed to be shared.
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@scottalanmiller said:
Think about this.... have you ever had any friend had their Facebook account hacked? I see people I know have that happen all of the time. It's not a secure system. Nothing in the use of Facebook suggests that the person using FB takes it seriously. Sure some people do and that is great for them. For other people it is just a completely casual account.
Now you are by association granted access through all of those allowances of lack of security.
And more importantly, allowing it to other networks, not just your own, just because you are nearby.
How does the hacker know I have wifi sense on? How do they know where I live?
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RE: Windows 10 Wi-Fi Sense is a bad idea
@JaredBusch said:
I use Apple's SSID sharing built into iOS to let all my devices connect after one has. but that does not come close to sharing it with someone else.
What if someone hacks one of your devices?