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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

      @Dashrender said i

      But in the long run, having more people upgraded or migrated away from Windows is safer for the internet at large.

      Was that a typo, or did you really mean migrated away from Windows?

      As much as I do like Windows, yes migrating away from Windows to iDevices and Chromebooks for most users would make the safer place. Both of these platforms force updates upon users keeping those users safe, oh, kinda like what's happening to some users on Windows.

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      • bbigfordB
        bbigford @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

        @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

        @Dashrender said i

        But in the long run, having more people upgraded or migrated away from Windows is safer for the internet at large.

        Was that a typo, or did you really mean migrated away from Windows?

        As much as I do like Windows, yes migrating away from Windows to iDevices and Chromebooks for most users would make the safer place. Both of these platforms force updates upon users keeping those users safe, oh, kinda like what's happening to some users on Windows.

        If your Chromebooks are supported (it's by age... not architecture or performance weird enough), Google is porting Android apps over. This is going to deprecate iDevices even further in low budget areas, but more importantly, education/GAFE. That

        That basically taps into an app store, instead of re-coding apps for the Chrome Store. Plus, makes things a little more unified since Android devices can be managed in GAFE/GAFB.

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @bbigford
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          @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

          @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

          @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

          @Dashrender said i

          But in the long run, having more people upgraded or migrated away from Windows is safer for the internet at large.

          Was that a typo, or did you really mean migrated away from Windows?

          As much as I do like Windows, yes migrating away from Windows to iDevices and Chromebooks for most users would make the safer place. Both of these platforms force updates upon users keeping those users safe, oh, kinda like what's happening to some users on Windows.

          If your Chromebooks are supported (it's by age... not architecture or performance weird enough), Google is porting Android apps over. This is going to deprecate iDevices even further in low budget areas, but more importantly, education/GAFE. That

          That basically taps into an app store, instead of re-coding apps for the Chrome Store. Plus, makes things a little more unified since Android devices can be managed in GAFE/GAFB.

          http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/25/google-to-bring-android-apps-to-the-chromebook/

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said

            As much as I do like Windows, yes migrating away from Windows to iDevices and Chromebooks for most users would make the safer place. Both of these platforms force updates upon users keeping those users safe, oh, kinda like what's happening to some users on Windows.

            I just recommended a Chromebook over the weekend.

            Guy only uses e-mail and web browsing and hates his old crappy Windows laptop.

            I was like, boy do I have some good news for you!

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              Carnival Boy @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

              I was like, boy do I have some good news for you!

              Until he finds out that his favourite websites all use Silverlight!

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said

                Until he finds out that his favourite websites all use Silverlight!

                Time to change websites!

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  I can recommend Chromebooks for others, but damn just using the one I setup for someone recently made me want to destroy it!

                  You have a friggin' desktop and you can't put icons on it? WTF? Why can't I put web app shortcuts on the desktop? We have icons on every other GUI solution out there (android, iphone, windows phones, Windows PC, Macs, Cinnamon, etc).

                  I'm now trying to find a printing solution for this device. Sadly, the Chromebook is in NYC, and I'm in Nebraska.

                  Can you remote control into a Chromebook? Not to mention getting the printer on WiFi will be a minor challenge for this user.

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                  • Deleted74295D
                    Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                    @Carnival-Boy said

                    Until he finds out that his favourite websites all use Silverlight!

                    Looking at you streaming websites!

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                    • bbigfordB
                      bbigford @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                      I can recommend Chromebooks for others, but damn just using the one I setup for someone recently made me want to destroy it!

                      You have a friggin' desktop and you can't put icons on it? WTF? Why can't I put web app shortcuts on the desktop? We have icons on every other GUI solution out there (android, iphone, windows phones, Windows PC, Macs, Cinnamon, etc).

                      I'm now trying to find a printing solution for this device. Sadly, the Chromebook is in NYC, and I'm in Nebraska.

                      Can you remote control into a Chromebook? Not to mention getting the printer on WiFi will be a minor challenge for this user.

                      No icons on the deskop? I wish every OS, ever, got rid of that garbage. 🙂

                      Seriously, who actually minimizes everything or does a hide all, going to their desktop, instead of just opens Explorer and uses some other directory? I mean I do, but there is no easier way...

                      What's even better is just making a shortcut for a certain directory on your taskbar...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @bbigford
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                        @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                        @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                        I can recommend Chromebooks for others, but damn just using the one I setup for someone recently made me want to destroy it!

                        You have a friggin' desktop and you can't put icons on it? WTF? Why can't I put web app shortcuts on the desktop? We have icons on every other GUI solution out there (android, iphone, windows phones, Windows PC, Macs, Cinnamon, etc).

                        I'm now trying to find a printing solution for this device. Sadly, the Chromebook is in NYC, and I'm in Nebraska.

                        Can you remote control into a Chromebook? Not to mention getting the printer on WiFi will be a minor challenge for this user.

                        No icons on the deskop? I wish every OS, ever, got rid of that garbage. 🙂

                        Seriously, who actually minimizes everything or does a hide all, going to their desktop, instead of just opens Explorer and uses some other directory? I mean I do, but there is no easier way...

                        What's even better is just making a shortcut for a certain directory on your taskbar...

                        Directory? on a Chromebook?

                        As for hiding? I personally don't use the desktop for internet shortcuts, I use the desktop for a dumping ground of temporary files. Which brings us to things like Snip and GreenShot - other than just a full on screen shot, is there a way to grab a specific area of the screen for documentation creation purposes?

                        yes now I know I'm nit picking, but I use this function almost daily for dropping into documentation or dropping images into ML.

                        But I'm a power user, so I'm fine with Windows. I know how to take care of it, I want to upgrade to Windows 10 (OK did it in what Nov, Dec of 2014). So I need/want different things.

                        But my 72 yr old Doc wants something close to what he's been using for 20 years or more since Win9x or even Win 3.x icons on the desktop. He has a shortcut to google, to AOL (don't ask), his stocks page, etc. He prefers it (and so does the majority of my staff) to have the shortcut on the desktop instead of clicking the favorite button. I'm past caring why they won't change, I just give them what they want.

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                          I can recommend Chromebooks for others, but damn just using the one I setup for someone recently made me want to destroy it!

                          You have a friggin' desktop and you can't put icons on it? WTF? Why can't I put web app shortcuts on the desktop? We have icons on every other GUI solution out there (android, iphone, windows phones, Windows PC, Macs, Cinnamon, etc).

                          I'm now trying to find a printing solution for this device. Sadly, the Chromebook is in NYC, and I'm in Nebraska.

                          Can you remote control into a Chromebook? Not to mention getting the printer on WiFi will be a minor challenge for this user.

                          Remote control a Chromebook? Not yet. I tried and tried. Chromecast for Chrome is FROM Chrome. But now with Android support, you'll be able to most likely. 🙂

                          Printing solution... That is also a tough one because printers are for users, not computers. So you have to add the printer(s) to each user's Gmail account. I've stopped looking for easier methods as I am no longer in GAFE.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                              Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                              Google Apps for Education

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
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                                @coliver said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                                Google Apps for Education

                                Oh, I don't work in Education. So I'm assuming that GAFB is Google Apps for Business then? And since this device is for a home user, that's not much help either.

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                                • bbigfordB
                                  bbigford @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                  Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                                  And also Google Apps for Business. It takes the Google Enterprise Console and lets you manage Chrome & Android devices, while also pushing policy. It has other functionality like MX records, etc.

                                  Think of a crappier version of Active Directory, Group Policy, etc, all rolled into one. I think admins still can't re-name computers, so you identify computers based on their MAC address, which is terrible. Can't put in building/room IDs, etc.

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                    @coliver said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                    @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                    Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                                    Google Apps for Education

                                    Oh, I don't work in Education. So I'm assuming that GAFB is Google Apps for Business then? And since this device is for a home user, that's not much help either.

                                    Ah, nvm on all that then! All you have to do is have a cloud-ready printer, and you can add the printer to their Google account. Let me grab some links...

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford
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                                      @Dashrender https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/printers.html

                                      Youtube Video

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @bbigford
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                                        @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                        @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                        @coliver said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                        @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                        Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                                        Google Apps for Education

                                        Oh, I don't work in Education. So I'm assuming that GAFB is Google Apps for Business then? And since this device is for a home user, that's not much help either.

                                        Ah, nvm on all that then! All you have to do is have a cloud-ready printer, and you can add the printer to their Google account. Let me grab some links...

                                        awesome thanks.

                                        can I setup the printer here in Omaha, then mail it to them there, they plug and go? Though, I have no idea what the SSID and password is, so that's kinda pointless.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                          @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                          @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                          @coliver said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                          @Dashrender said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                          Gotta ask, what the hell is GAFE? and whatever that other acronym you put up earlier?

                                          Google Apps for Education

                                          Oh, I don't work in Education. So I'm assuming that GAFB is Google Apps for Business then? And since this device is for a home user, that's not much help either.

                                          Ah, nvm on all that then! All you have to do is have a cloud-ready printer, and you can add the printer to their Google account. Let me grab some links...

                                          awesome thanks.

                                          can I setup the printer here in Omaha, then mail it to them there, they plug and go? Though, I have no idea what the SSID and password is, so that's kinda pointless.

                                          What you'd have to do is sign into their Google account from any device (doesn't have to be the Chromebook), then add the printer (if it can be added... some really old printers can't be added). Then... let me find the other steps so I'm not blowing smoke.

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                                          • bbigfordB
                                            bbigford
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                                            @Dashrender So it's all based on the USB connection or LAN... In theory, you should be able to add it to their account, then ship them the printer, because their account will be looking for the information on that printer. If not, you could walk them through how to do it in like 2 mins. It's made so easy that older folk have an easy time with it. Even easier if you know what name to tell them.

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