Free drive encryption
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With all of the recent changes... Bitlocker having free forensic tools out there to decrypt volumes protected by Bitlocker, and TrueCrypt going by the way side, leading to its vulnerability. What is everyone using now? VeraCrypt or what?
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VeraCrypt
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Does VeraCrypt read TrueCrypt volumes? Is a true branch of TrueCrypt?
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@BRRABill Yes, and Yes
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Veracrypt seems to be the way to go.
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@scottalanmiller said:
What would a fake one be?
A program that says it is the "next generation" of True Crypt, but isn't the logical resumption of the programming.
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I've read quite a bit about various tools available, that can decrypt Bitlocker. I found an article from elcomsoft and a few others. They are paid programs, but I can't find the articles I read a while back about Bitlocker not being extremely safe anymore. Is there any truth in that or am I just blowing smoke when I don't recommend Bitlocker right out of the gate for a highly secure Windows PC? I know "highly secure" and "Windows PC" shouldn't be in the same sentence... nonetheless.
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@BBigford LVM works well =P
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I'm using self-encrypting drives on mobile workstations if/when they can be implemented. Otherwise I use Veracrypt.
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I mean... You could always just bipass encryption altogether and rig your drives with thermite, a biometric lock, and a remote trigger.
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@RamblingBiped said:
I mean... You could always just bipass encryption altogether and rig your drives with thermite, a biometric lock, and a remote trigger.
I like that idea. I'm still curious to hear thoughts on Bitlocker, if it is indeed secure anymore... Because I know it was vulnerable to cold boot attacks, but there have been some articles stirring around about various tools that have been released to decrypt Bitlocker volumes.
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@BBigford said:
I've read quite a bit about various tools available, that can decrypt Bitlocker. I found an article from elcomsoft and a few others. They are paid programs, but I can't find the articles I read a while back about Bitlocker not being extremely safe anymore. Is there any truth in that or am I just blowing smoke when I don't recommend Bitlocker right out of the gate for a highly secure Windows PC? I know "highly secure" and "Windows PC" shouldn't be in the same sentence... nonetheless.
well you already said the Windows and highly secure.. so moving on....
Some might say you can't use BitLocker because it's no open source and you have no idea if MS has installed an extra key in every instance that they can use to decrypt your data. that said, I don't think they have.
Personally, for the standard things we need to be concerned about - a stolen laptop that had HIPAA data or some such, Bitlocker is totally acceptable. If you're worried about the NSA, then no, you can't use it.
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@RamblingBiped said:
I'm using self-encrypting drives on mobile workstations if/when they can be implemented. Otherwise I use Veracrypt.
There are reports that the drive manufacturers can unlock those self-encrypting drives.
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@Dashrender said:
Personally, for the standard things we need to be concerned about - a stolen laptop that had HIPAA data or some such, Bitlocker is totally acceptable. If you're worried about the NSA, then no, you can't use it.
It's more of a search for the "gotcha" in Bitlocker. There's so much controversy behind it, I'm just curious if there is a "see... it's crackable with <method x> or <software x>." I haven't found any solid evidence throughout the years aside from the cold boot vulnerabilities, so that's why I turned to the community.
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@BBigford said:
@Dashrender said:
Personally, for the standard things we need to be concerned about - a stolen laptop that had HIPAA data or some such, Bitlocker is totally acceptable. If you're worried about the NSA, then no, you can't use it.
It's more of a search for the "gotcha" in Bitlocker. There's so much controversy behind it, I'm just curious if there is a "see... it's crackable with <method x> or <software x>." I haven't found any solid evidence throughout the years aside from the cold boot vulnerabilities, so that's why I turned to the community.
Exactly - and I'm betting you won't find any either. It's like this FBI thing and the bomber's phone. I'm not sure I believe that anyone actually cracked the encryption on the phone. Personally I think that's a lie so they could drop a case they felt they were losing and didn't want to have a precedent set against them.
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@Dashrender said:
@BBigford said:
@Dashrender said:
Personally, for the standard things we need to be concerned about - a stolen laptop that had HIPAA data or some such, Bitlocker is totally acceptable. If you're worried about the NSA, then no, you can't use it.
It's more of a search for the "gotcha" in Bitlocker. There's so much controversy behind it, I'm just curious if there is a "see... it's crackable with <method x> or <software x>." I haven't found any solid evidence throughout the years aside from the cold boot vulnerabilities, so that's why I turned to the community.
Exactly - and I'm betting you won't find any either. It's like this FBI thing and the bomber's phone. I'm not sure I believe that anyone actually cracked the encryption on the phone. Personally I think that's a lie so they could drop a case they felt they were losing and didn't want to have a precedent set against them.
So you're speculating that Bitlocker is ultra secure, or any material on it is just being smothered?
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@Dashrender said:
Exactly - and I'm betting you won't find any either. It's like this FBI thing and the bomber's phone. I'm not sure I believe that anyone actually cracked the encryption on the phone. Personally I think that's a lie so they could drop a case they felt they were losing and didn't want to have a precedent set against them.
I actually believe it.
It was for an older model, and only applicable under certain circumstances.
It like we always say, if they have the device, they'll eventually have the data.
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@Dashrender said:
There are reports that the drive manufacturers can unlock those self-encrypting drives.
I've had Wave (who makes the software that locks the Samung SSDs I use) enable an unlocked drive.
I forget exactly what we did, and data was basically wiped clean, but if they have access to do that, who knows what they can really do...
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@BBigford said:
@Dashrender said:
@BBigford said:
@Dashrender said:
Personally, for the standard things we need to be concerned about - a stolen laptop that had HIPAA data or some such, Bitlocker is totally acceptable. If you're worried about the NSA, then no, you can't use it.
It's more of a search for the "gotcha" in Bitlocker. There's so much controversy behind it, I'm just curious if there is a "see... it's crackable with <method x> or <software x>." I haven't found any solid evidence throughout the years aside from the cold boot vulnerabilities, so that's why I turned to the community.
Exactly - and I'm betting you won't find any either. It's like this FBI thing and the bomber's phone. I'm not sure I believe that anyone actually cracked the encryption on the phone. Personally I think that's a lie so they could drop a case they felt they were losing and didn't want to have a precedent set against them.
So you're speculating that Bitlocker is ultra secure,
ultra? who's to say - but I do consider it secure enough for the common man to use. Again, Healthcare worker trying to keep their PHI (personal health information) away from prying eyes on a stolen laptop, it's more than likely fine, the average thug on the street will just format it if able and reinstall Windows and move on. But if you're talking about a targeted attack, say the FBI is trying - then I have no idea how good it is against them trying to crack into it.
or any material on it is just being smothered?
No idea what you mean here.
