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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      @wirestyle22 said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      @wirestyle22 said:

      I always thought that if there is a lockout after 4-5 wrong passwords, dictionary attacks don't really matter. Opinions?

      You're correct until someone takes, say, your iPhone and brute forces it offline. Substitute iPhone for laptop, or whatever other portable data container you like.

      Dictionary / rainbow tables are super powerful on static data. If you have a chance to play with them I highly recommend it. At one point I had 20GB of rainbow tables and they were soooooo sweet haha.

      If a device were stolen I would remote wipe though, right?

      Absolutely! Once the luser finally gave up looking for it and confessed. That's anywhere from an hour to several days where I can take your device offline (disabling your remote wipe) and then it's just a count down to pwnage.

      Obviously in the case of MDM managed devices, hopefully you have some kind of limited number of tries before the device self wipes.

      I have this on my personal phone, lol.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre said:

        I have this on my personal phone, lol.

        I don't, just because the little ones grab my phone sometimes.

        Though since I really have no data on there ... what am I waiting for???????

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @dafyre said:

          I have this on my personal phone, lol.

          I don't, just because the little ones grab my phone sometimes.

          Though since I really have no data on there ... what am I waiting for???????

          You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @BRRABill said:

            @dafyre said:

            I have this on my personal phone, lol.

            I don't, just because the little ones grab my phone sometimes.

            Though since I really have no data on there ... what am I waiting for???????

            You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

            This! Any pics or videos that I take are uploaded to my ownCloud server... Contats are on Google... anything else can be replaced.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

              No need for backups. No data is stored on the phone anymore.

              I've caved to the @scottalanmiller method of data storage.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @Dashrender said:

                You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

                No need for backups. No data is stored on the phone anymore.

                I've caved to the @scottalanmiller method of data storage.

                This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

                  Goes right to iCloud.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    Not to mention that you'll still want a contact list on there. So are you saying you never add a phone number/email address/etc via the phone? You only do it via another device? cause if you do it via the phone, then you do want/need backups/syncing.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

                      No need for backups. No data is stored on the phone anymore.

                      I've caved to the @scottalanmiller method of data storage.

                      This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

                      Auto upload is where it's at man. I could completely destroy/loose my phone tomorrow and all my pictures/videos would be available online. Considering that's really all that I care about on the phone, well, great!

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

                        Goes right to iCloud.

                        technically a backup.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          Goes right to iCloud.

                          I'm not sure I don't like my OCD control over my pictures.

                          But I have to admit it's pretty nice not having to worry about it.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Not to mention that you'll still want a contact list on there. So are you saying you never add a phone number/email address/etc via the phone? You only do it via another device? cause if you do it via the phone, then you do want/need backups/syncing.

                            All that stuff syncs with my Exchange account. If they phone got wiped, I'd just reinstall the Exchange account and it all would be back.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Not to mention that you'll still want a contact list on there. So are you saying you never add a phone number/email address/etc via the phone? You only do it via another device? cause if you do it via the phone, then you do want/need backups/syncing.

                              All that stuff syncs with my Exchange account. If they phone got wiped, I'd just reinstall the Exchange account and it all would be back.

                              That syncing is a form of backup.. so it's not accurate to say there is no data on the phone you care about.. it's more accurate to say that anything on the phone you do care about is snyc'ed/backed up to someplace else that comes right back with my new/wiped phone.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                technically a backup.

                                I'm not arguing with you, per se.

                                I'm just saying there is no data JUST on the phone that I care about losing.

                                Not so before ML. I'd have months of pictures and stuff I never got around to copying off the phone.

                                My first step was just to enable iCloud backup. Then I went whole hog.

                                I might even one day just use OneDrive, because that is where all my other pictures are located. But I"ve just ... delayed doing that.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  That syncing is a form of backup.. so it's not accurate to say there is no data on the phone you care about.. it's more accurate to say that anything on the phone you do care about is snyc'ed/backed up to someplace else that comes right back with my new/wiped phone.

                                  There is no data solely on the phone I am worried about losing because don't have it elsewhere, correct.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    Of course, as I say this, I forgot that last week I tried accessing PHOTOS on iCloud through my browser, and could not.

                                    Figured it was a fluke.

                                    Tried again today? NADA. Keeps saying it is a network error.

                                    Good job, Apple.

                                    🙂

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      Of course, as I say this, I forgot that last week I tried accessing PHOTOS on iCloud through my browser, and could not.

                                      Figured it was a fluke.

                                      Tried again today? NADA. Keeps saying it is a network error.

                                      Good job, Apple.

                                      🙂

                                      Time to switch it to OneDrive right now!

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Time to switch it to OneDrive right now!

                                        Possibly...

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                                        • tonyshowoffT
                                          tonyshowoff
                                          last edited by tonyshowoff

                                          During a password cracking contest years ago we were able to crack multiple word passwords of considerable length, sometimes even faster than the more complex shorter passwords.

                                          However, passwords like this with a number in the middle of the word or even slightly misspelled proved to basically be nearly impossible. I also use a lot of Serbian or Hungarian words mixed in my passwords. For example, a temporary password I created for one of my employees yesterday was:

                                          %Kalendardishwasherbiber25

                                          Percent sign, calendar (with a K, which funnily is the original spelling), dashwasher, and the Serbian word for Pepper, which hilarious is also the Serbian spelling for Justin Bieber's last name.

                                          This was just a temporary one. The kind I would use, using this one as the base, would be something like:

                                          %Kalendard1shwasherbiber255555

                                          Similar idea, but I replaced one of the letters with a number, still had 25, but did the 5 five times. This is a more complex version though, typically I just do one of these things, but most of the time it's typically three, four, or five words depending on length with at least 1 number stuck in the middle and some at the end, and one of the words misspelled.

                                          The words typically are always a mix too of English, Serbian, Hungarian, and sometimes Arabic words, but I don't speak Arabic fluently so they're usually religious or traditional words.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Time to switch it to OneDrive right now!

                                            After being escalated to three levels, still no resolution.

                                            Strangely enough I think the third level (who English was not his first language) was the worst. He kept called Google Chrome "Google dot com"

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