Linux Thin Clients
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@RojoLoco said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
My first responsibility is to improve everything, which I am trying to do.
That goes against the "I can improve things but someone else has the veto power that improvements are the mission." You already had the opportunity to improve things but aren't allowed to. So while someone might have told you in words that that is your job, their policies make it very clear that that statement was untrue.
If you give me a ruleset I'm going to do everything I can to use it to my advantage within my moral and legal boundaries
Which is exactly why you should be thriving in a private company that works for profit.
My strength is not immediately apparent unfortunately. On paper my experience looks strong but my education is lacking. Unfortunately, before SAM gets in here saying certs are stupid, every employer here is looking for certs and very, very specific experience. I'm not making excuses. I have applications out there. What's hard is differentiating myself from a name on a piece of paper. Once I get the interview I also have issues with the random questions they ask me. I have received a lot of good advice on here in regards to that though and I'm specifically going to job interviews to practice.
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@wirestyle22 said:
My strength is not immediately apparent unfortunately. On paper my experience looks strong but my education is lacking. Unfortunately, before SAM gets in here saying certs are stupid, every employer here is looking for certs and very, very specific experience.
What kinds of employers are these? What certs are they looking for?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@RojoLoco said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
My first responsibility is to improve everything, which I am trying to do.
That goes against the "I can improve things but someone else has the veto power that improvements are the mission." You already had the opportunity to improve things but aren't allowed to. So while someone might have told you in words that that is your job, their policies make it very clear that that statement was untrue.
If you give me a ruleset I'm going to do everything I can to use it to my advantage within my moral and legal boundaries
Which is exactly why you should be thriving in a private company that works for profit.
My strength is not immediately apparent unfortunately. On paper my experience looks strong but my education is lacking. Unfortunately, before SAM gets in here saying certs are stupid, every employer here is looking for certs and very, very specific experience. I'm not making excuses. I have applications out there. What's hard is differentiating myself from a name on a piece of paper. Once I get the interview I also have issues with the random questions they ask me. I have received a lot of good advice on here in regards to that though and I'm specifically going to job interviews to practice.
That's definitely a good start, but actively avoid applying at schools, hospitals, and non profits. That is the road to nowhere.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I must just be over buying. The last HP EliteDesk 8300 G1s from 2 years ago cost me $800 for Windows 8.1 Pro with an i5, 4 GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, and 3 year warranty. And I still needed to add a monitor on top of that.
Most SMBs over buy, but $800 isn't bad. That's a HUGE percentage less than $1,100. And you are NOT a non-profit. And you DO have imaging and similar needs. $800 is like 40% less!
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
My strength is not immediately apparent unfortunately. On paper my experience looks strong but my education is lacking. Unfortunately, before SAM gets in here saying certs are stupid, every employer here is looking for certs and very, very specific experience.
What kinds of employers are these? What certs are they looking for?
It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.
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@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
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@wirestyle22 said:
It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.
CS isn't for programmers. It is for algorithmic researchers. Programmers get IT degrees.
It makes no sense and tells you instantly that you talking to a company without the slightest idea or concern about IT. It's a garbage job requirement, often fake, and a great way to improve your job searches by eliminating those places from consideration. You aren't desperate or starving, focus on real and/or good jobs instead.
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Think of it like this...
Programming is to engineering as CS is to a physicist.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.
CS isn't for programmers. It is for algorithmic researchers. Programmers get IT degrees.
It makes no sense and tells you instantly that you talking to a company without the slightest idea or concern about IT. It's a garbage job requirement, often fake, and a great way to improve your job searches by eliminating those places from consideration. You aren't desperate or starving, focus on real and/or good jobs instead.
I intend to take advantage of all of the good advice I've been given here. Hopefully I will learn quickly. On a side note my fiance just got a job with the state paying...a lot so that's great. Motivated me to get out there even more.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because of the licensing cost
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
Why? What's the point in making a TS out of it? Why not install cheap Linux boxes instead?
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
Why? What's the point in making a TS out of it? Why not install cheap Linux boxes instead?
You're kind of arguing with my previous impression which is now moot. I was just clarifying for Scott that I meant Linux. Still going to installed cheap linux boxes.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better
Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better
Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM
Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.
LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.
Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.
Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....
Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.
Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.
I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing
You were thinking Linux terminal server?
Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well
I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better
Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.
Better to be less crazy than all crazy I say
