Windows 10 Auto Update
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
Sadly this thing doesn't even require admin rights for the upgrade anymore. It assumes if you allow users to install updates you want to allow them to install upgrades
But who lets end users do that? For home, sure. But for a business?
Everyone? Who doesn't allow users to install windows updates? You approve them by WSUS then let users install them and make them scheduled if they aren't installed within enough time. Otherwise and administrator has to login to apply the windows updates.
I've never seen an enterprise that left users to their own devices for installing desktop updates. But if they are filtered through WSUS, I could see that making sense. But in that case, it is jointly managed and the Windows 10 update would not be an issue again.
Exactly and it's not one.
We've seen it pop up for two users that are work from home over softvpn.. granted that could just be a fluke with as many users as we have it's peanuts. and it didn't cause a single issue anyway aside from freak the users out so I heard from the technicians. they got some franktic calls. and thought they'd be pissed at them.
Yeah I wonder if GP was being pushed to them. I've had many a problem for remote users that they never got updated GPOs, therefore things didn't work.
What ended up being the cause of it? Relevant to my future
Didn't you say yesterday that you don't have all of your computers on the domain? That tells me that if you are not using a third party patch management solution - then you will have this problem where users will inadvertently upgrade themselves to Windows 10.
Future me will have ZT but present me has remotely uninstalled those updates I listed above which prompt users to upgrade to 10. I may be screwed. I don't know.
I do believe that you are. MS has/will push an important update that will just start the upgrade. The only way I'm aware of how to stop that is with the MS published registry changes... though JohnHooks says there's a MS program that probably does the same.
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
Sadly this thing doesn't even require admin rights for the upgrade anymore. It assumes if you allow users to install updates you want to allow them to install upgrades
But who lets end users do that? For home, sure. But for a business?
Everyone? Who doesn't allow users to install windows updates? You approve them by WSUS then let users install them and make them scheduled if they aren't installed within enough time. Otherwise and administrator has to login to apply the windows updates.
I've never seen an enterprise that left users to their own devices for installing desktop updates. But if they are filtered through WSUS, I could see that making sense. But in that case, it is jointly managed and the Windows 10 update would not be an issue again.
Exactly and it's not one.
We've seen it pop up for two users that are work from home over softvpn.. granted that could just be a fluke with as many users as we have it's peanuts. and it didn't cause a single issue anyway aside from freak the users out so I heard from the technicians. they got some franktic calls. and thought they'd be pissed at them.
Yeah I wonder if GP was being pushed to them. I've had many a problem for remote users that they never got updated GPOs, therefore things didn't work.
What ended up being the cause of it? Relevant to my future
Didn't you say yesterday that you don't have all of your computers on the domain? That tells me that if you are not using a third party patch management solution - then you will have this problem where users will inadvertently upgrade themselves to Windows 10.
Future me will have ZT but present me has remotely uninstalled those updates I listed above which prompt users to upgrade to 10. I may be screwed. I don't know.
I do believe that you are. MS has/will push an important update that will just start the upgrade. The only way I'm aware of how to stop that is with the MS published registry changes... though JohnHooks says there's a MS program that probably does the same.
@johnhooks What say you sir?
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@BRRABill said:
We all know at some point it's just going to autoinstall, right?
LOL.
I don't think it will auto install any more than any other update does - they almost always prompt... but the users just accept or deny them carte blanch... so that's kinda the same as autoinstalling.
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
We all know at some point it's just going to autoinstall, right?
LOL.
I don't think it will auto install any more than any other update does - they almost always prompt... but the users just accept or deny them carte blanch... so that's kinda the same as autoinstalling.
My users click and don't read. I bet it starts and they power the tower down as well when it starts updating. Sigh.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
Sadly this thing doesn't even require admin rights for the upgrade anymore. It assumes if you allow users to install updates you want to allow them to install upgrades
But who lets end users do that? For home, sure. But for a business?
Everyone? Who doesn't allow users to install windows updates? You approve them by WSUS then let users install them and make them scheduled if they aren't installed within enough time. Otherwise and administrator has to login to apply the windows updates.
I've never seen an enterprise that left users to their own devices for installing desktop updates. But if they are filtered through WSUS, I could see that making sense. But in that case, it is jointly managed and the Windows 10 update would not be an issue again.
Exactly and it's not one.
We've seen it pop up for two users that are work from home over softvpn.. granted that could just be a fluke with as many users as we have it's peanuts. and it didn't cause a single issue anyway aside from freak the users out so I heard from the technicians. they got some franktic calls. and thought they'd be pissed at them.
Yeah I wonder if GP was being pushed to them. I've had many a problem for remote users that they never got updated GPOs, therefore things didn't work.
What ended up being the cause of it? Relevant to my future
Didn't you say yesterday that you don't have all of your computers on the domain? That tells me that if you are not using a third party patch management solution - then you will have this problem where users will inadvertently upgrade themselves to Windows 10.
Future me will have ZT but present me has remotely uninstalled those updates I listed above which prompt users to upgrade to 10. I may be screwed. I don't know.
I do believe that you are. MS has/will push an important update that will just start the upgrade. The only way I'm aware of how to stop that is with the MS published registry changes... though JohnHooks says there's a MS program that probably does the same.
@johnhooks What say you sir?
I'm not sure. I don't remember talking about any of this lol.
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@johnhooks said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Jason said:
Sadly this thing doesn't even require admin rights for the upgrade anymore. It assumes if you allow users to install updates you want to allow them to install upgrades
But who lets end users do that? For home, sure. But for a business?
Everyone? Who doesn't allow users to install windows updates? You approve them by WSUS then let users install them and make them scheduled if they aren't installed within enough time. Otherwise and administrator has to login to apply the windows updates.
I've never seen an enterprise that left users to their own devices for installing desktop updates. But if they are filtered through WSUS, I could see that making sense. But in that case, it is jointly managed and the Windows 10 update would not be an issue again.
Exactly and it's not one.
We've seen it pop up for two users that are work from home over softvpn.. granted that could just be a fluke with as many users as we have it's peanuts. and it didn't cause a single issue anyway aside from freak the users out so I heard from the technicians. they got some franktic calls. and thought they'd be pissed at them.
Yeah I wonder if GP was being pushed to them. I've had many a problem for remote users that they never got updated GPOs, therefore things didn't work.
What ended up being the cause of it? Relevant to my future
Didn't you say yesterday that you don't have all of your computers on the domain? That tells me that if you are not using a third party patch management solution - then you will have this problem where users will inadvertently upgrade themselves to Windows 10.
Future me will have ZT but present me has remotely uninstalled those updates I listed above which prompt users to upgrade to 10. I may be screwed. I don't know.
I do believe that you are. MS has/will push an important update that will just start the upgrade. The only way I'm aware of how to stop that is with the MS published registry changes... though JohnHooks says there's a MS program that probably does the same.
@johnhooks What say you sir?
I'm not sure. I don't remember talking about any of this lol.
I'm going to have to make a project out of this and control Windows 10. Skynet is real.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I'm going to have to make a project out of this and control Windows 10. Skynet is real.
Justifying Microsoft's decision
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I'm going to have to make a project out of this and control Windows 10. Skynet is real.
Justifying Microsoft's decision
Control it as in limit it's influence. I'm going to fist fight Bill Gates.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I'm going to fist fight Bill Gates.
And the award for most disturbing imagery of the day goes to....
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I'm going to fist fight Bill Gates.
And the award for most disturbing imagery of the day goes to....
It's nice to win anything at this point
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Did you just edit that to add the word "fight", I swear when I went to quote that, it only said fist.
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Remember it is Steve Ballmer that primarily owns Microsoft, not Bill Gates
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@scottalanmiller said:
Did you just edit that to add the word "fight", I swear when I went to quote that, it only said fist.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. NO. but dear god i wish.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Remember it is Steve Ballmer that primarily owns Microsoft, not Bill Gates
Bill Gates is my rival. I sent him a reddit message informing him so obviously he knows about it.
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Just one week left to update your licenses. Time to get out there and make it happen!!
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Auto Update:
Just one week left to update your licenses. Time to get out there and make it happen!!
I am doing it now.
Also trying to upgrade the 7 Win8 licenses (Product Keys) I bought. That's a bit more of an issue. (My issue, not theirs.)
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I have one remaining laptop that has to be done this week because it is on Linux and not Windows 7 so I don't have a way to acquire the Windows 10 upgrade license on it yet.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Auto Update:
I have one remaining laptop that has to be done this week because it is on Linux and not Windows 7 so I don't have a way to acquire the Windows 10 upgrade license on it yet.
It would be nice if they had a way to just upgrade licenses.
The 7 keys I have are FPP so I can move around at will. It's just a PITA since they are used other places as non-Windows 10.
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Yeah, they want to make sure that people actually go through the effort of getting Windows 10 and then have to make an effort to leave it again to not actually use it. It makes sense, even if it sucks.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Auto Update:
Yeah, they want to make sure that people actually go through the effort of getting Windows 10 and then have to make an effort to leave it again to not actually use it. It makes sense, even if it sucks.
I basically set up VMs on XS. Installed with the key, then killed it.
Though 3 of the 7 have already been used somewhere, so I am trying to track that down.
