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      Dashrender @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      They really should just pick key areas to give coverage.. 25 acres is a lot to cover with any kind of density unless they have a multi-million dollar budget to install, replace/maintain all these APs out in the weather.

      What happened to summer camps being unplugged (aside from staff/office use).

      Agreed, I can see providing access to WiFi in a few key areas, but it's a camp, complete coverage seems to be against the camp idea.... but what do we know 🙂

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        travisdh1 @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @Jason said:

        They really should just pick key areas to give coverage.. 25 acres is a lot to cover with any kind of density unless they have a multi-million dollar budget to install, replace/maintain all these APs out in the weather.

        What happened to summer camps being unplugged (aside from staff/office use).

        Agreed, I can see providing access to WiFi in a few key areas, but it's a camp, complete coverage seems to be against the camp idea.... but what do we know 🙂

        Sounds like a challenge to me. Out of curiosity, do they have a website with a layout for the camp?

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          scottalanmiller
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          So are they planning to run cables all over 25 acres? Probably not. You likely want a WiMAX mesh or similar to handle backhaul and Wifi for connections.

          http://www.open-mesh.com/
          https://www.ruckuswireless.com/technology/smartmesh

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            thanksajdotcom
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            The plan was basically a mesh. Have repeaters for the repeaters. I agree that covering all 25 acres seems unnecessary and counterproductive, but until I go out there, I won't know all the details. Just getting ideas to begin with.

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              stacksofplates @thanksajdotcom
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              @thanksajdotcom said:

              The plan was basically a mesh. Have repeaters for the repeaters. I agree that covering all 25 acres seems unnecessary and counterproductive, but until I go out there, I won't know all the details. Just getting ideas to begin with.

              That's scary.

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                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                The plan was basically a mesh. Have repeaters for the repeaters. I agree that covering all 25 acres seems unnecessary and counterproductive, but until I go out there, I won't know all the details. Just getting ideas to begin with.

                That's scary.

                Not so bad, mesh is built for that.

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                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  The plan was basically a mesh. Have repeaters for the repeaters. I agree that covering all 25 acres seems unnecessary and counterproductive, but until I go out there, I won't know all the details. Just getting ideas to begin with.

                  That's scary.

                  Not so bad, mesh is built for that.

                  I don't know why it copied the whole thing, but anyway I've never had success with repeaters. Maybe I just haven't spent enough money on them but they've always under performed or just sucked.

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    Mesh wifi is not repeaters. And it isn't silly consumer gear. It is enterprise point to point networking. It's not repeating, it's a real bridge.

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                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Mesh wifi is not repeaters. And it isn't silly consumer gear. It is enterprise point to point networking. It's not repeating, it's a real bridge.

                      Oh then I agree. I said this above:

                      I'm assuming they are going to need some bridges as well

                      I thought he meant repeaters like, receive and send wireless from the same antenna.

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                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Mesh wifi is not repeaters. And it isn't silly consumer gear. It is enterprise point to point networking. It's not repeating, it's a real bridge.

                        What Ubiquiti equipment would I use to accomplish this? Some exact models would be a helpful starting point.

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                          scottalanmiller
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                          Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

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                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                            Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

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                              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                              @thanksajdotcom said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                              Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                              You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?

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                                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @thanksajdotcom said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                                Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                                You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?

                                Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?

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                                  stacksofplates @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                                  Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                                  Their management software is free http://www.open-mesh.com/index.php/solutions/cloud-controller.html

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                                    thanksajdotcom
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                                      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                                      Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                                      You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?

                                      Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?

                                      How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.

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                                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                                        Right, no subscription. Not even an optional one.

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                                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                                          Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                                          You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?

                                          Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?

                                          How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.

                                          To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.

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                                            thanksajdotcom @thanksajdotcom
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                                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Look at Open-Mesh, not Ubiquiti.

                                            Preferably not something that is on any kind of a subscription model. Looking at it looks good, but I'd like a non-subscription-based option as well.

                                            You must know something that I don't, what subscription are you talking about?

                                            Open-Mesh said it's cloud-managed, so it looked like a similar structure to Meraki, where you have to pay a subscription to have access to the cloud system?

                                            How did you jump from cloud to subscription? Those are unrelated concepts.

                                            To use Meraki, you can't outright buy the hardware and manage it for life for that cost. You have to pay to have access to the cloud system. That makes it a subscription model.

                                            Even if it's not necessarily every year, you can't just outright buy it and own it for life.

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