Web Application VS Windows Application
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i understand what you mean Dear Scott, but a website whether it be an application or just blog or whatever... people still consider it a website and still expect to see effect and nice design on it (i'm talking about general public),
in our days website get more and more attractive in term of effects and flash .... so these modern website has created a culture which is : a website must have at least an acceptable level of design, otherwise they will consider it a piece of scrap even if it is running a strong coding and data management system,
this is what I meanYou can have a beautiful, functional website that is composed of html tables used the right way. I know this isn't the point you're trying to make but I just want to throw it out there
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I learned some C++ back in the day and probably forgot all of that. But if you want, check out a product called Ironspeed Designer. It is pretty awesome. http://www.ironspeed.com/products/Overview.aspx#gsc.tab=0
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I learned C in 1989, I think.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I learned C in 1989, I think.
It was Turbo Pascal for me, in 1996. Toss in a course in assembly for good measure. I was never great at programming, never grokked the advanced algorithms, which is the real key to being a good code monkey.
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I started on GW-BASIC on DOS 1.
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I found a book on QBasic when I was in 7th grade and started with that. I really don't do any programming though, I need to start learning more.
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I did most of my BASIC work with Amiga BASIC.
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what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,
also what is the best IDE (has to be drag and drop GUI builder) i can use to make GUI application with it ??
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@IT-ADMIN said:
what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,
also what is the best IDE (has to be drag and drop GUI builder) i can use to make GUI application with it ??
I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,
Python isn't the "coolest" language, it has been around long enough to be "old and boring."
But if you read my stuff, I push it hard as the best "first" language for people to learn. It is advanced, mature, broadly available, reasonably fast and very rich in features.It is indeed fully portable, as much as any language is. And it has powerful frameworks like Django, too.
Python is an excellent choice. It is in the same family of modern languages like Ruby, JavaScript and Go.
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i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??
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@travisdh1 said:
I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.
Well he should not be doing a GUI in the traditional sense, we are pretty sure from the full discussion that he should be using a web interface and whatever language he uses would just be server side.
Python will do fat GUI on the desktop just fine, it's actually well known for that and will even work with the Windows toolset via IronPython. But that's not what I would recommend here.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??
Qt Designer is very good, but again... I can't stress this enough, unless you must make old fashioned desktop apps, don't do it. Using the Q Toolkit (Qt) is a great step making the apps cross-platform, but it doesn't address making them modern.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@travisdh1 said:
I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.
Well he should not be doing a GUI in the traditional sense, we are pretty sure from the full discussion that he should be using a web interface and whatever language he uses would just be server side.
Python will do fat GUI on the desktop just fine, it's actually well known for that and will even work with the Windows toolset via IronPython. But that's not what I would recommend here.
And that is why I don't do programming, don't know about this stuff. Might have to check out IronPython.
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@scottalanmiller -- You call PHP not a modern language? What makes a language modern or not?
How do you determine the "best language" for a project? Anything you can do in one programming language can be done in another.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??
Use this: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/
I don't make a lot of suggestions here as this is mostly a learning experience but I know a lot of coders who swear by it. True to its name it's not a quick and dirty style guide. This is if you want to learn python the right way.
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@travisdh1 said:
And that is why I don't do programming, don't know about this stuff. Might have to check out IronPython.
I wouldn't, it's just an example of the flexibility. Python + Qt is generally way better.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller -- You call PHP not a modern language? What makes a language modern or not?
PHP is old in age and in design. It's not bad, but it is a "good old way" language. It is very straightforward, but is not expressive.
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@travisdh1 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,
also what is the best IDE (has to be drag and drop GUI builder) i can use to make GUI application with it ??
I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.
I would be interested in hearing more about that in another thread at some point as I'm trying to hook a Pi up to some sensors in my off time... were they i2C sensors?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,
Python isn't the "coolest" language, it has been around long enough to be "old and boring."
But if you read my stuff, I push it hard as the best "first" language for people to learn. It is advanced, mature, broadly available, reasonably fast and very rich in features.It is indeed fully portable, as much as any language is. And it has powerful frameworks like Django, too.
Python is an excellent choice. It is in the same family of modern languages like Ruby, JavaScript and Go.
so what is the coolest language i can learn ?? knowing that my need is the develop GUI application that can connect with database (entreprise application)
what fascinate me about python is the majority of powerful hacking tools are developed using this language like metasploit
