Benching CLI Servers - Linux
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Wouldn't a partner charge for the analysis? I know don't get advice from a sales person but does that apply to just the data as well?
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@coliver I think they do.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
For some reason I feel like dell might drop that MSP who does...
A long time ago I had dpack media at my first job.
Didn't think to keep a copy. But at this point it would be ancient and rather useless.
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
This is my question - I know that Dell has created DPack to gain sales, but since they allow resellers to provide the service direct, hopefully skipping sales calls from Dell directly - what prevents someone from sharing the software and skipping the whole process? I'm guessing it's that the logged information has to go through some automated process that Dell has created along with DPACK to create the reports.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
For some reason I feel like dell might drop that MSP who does...
A long time ago I had dpack media at my first job.
Didn't think to keep a copy. But at this point it would be ancient and rather useless.
Even if it was new, I'm guessing you can't read what the tool outputs.. Dell has to run it through more software to generate understandable reports...
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Wouldn't a partner charge for the analysis? I know don't get advice from a sales person but does that apply to just the data as well?
We do, but it is pretty minor. You pay for like one hour of consulting to "read" the report.
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
Dell sends it out.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
For some reason I feel like dell might drop that MSP who does...
A long time ago I had dpack media at my first job.
Didn't think to keep a copy. But at this point it would be ancient and rather useless.
Dell is not very concerned with people getting the DPACK tool since the data is encrypted and only Dell can read the results
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Dell has a public download link for the DPACK collector. But the link is broken. Just email their DPACK team and ask for the current link. You can freely share it here, no problem with that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Well; not that I'm not looking at Dell DPACK, but its not readily accessible.
And I'd like to benchmark what I have now to compare and contrast, which aren't dell servers.
You just ask Dell for it. It's not a public download, but it is not at all hard to get.
Just be prepared for sales calls and an IPoD proposal when you send the info into Dell. They do have a ton of good info when they send you the data back though.
Or go through a partner and then none of that happens
Could one of these... partners... send us a link to download DPACK?
wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?
For some reason I feel like dell might drop that MSP who does...
A long time ago I had dpack media at my first job.
Didn't think to keep a copy. But at this point it would be ancient and rather useless.
Dell is not very concerned with people getting the DPACK tool since the data is encrypted and only Dell can read the results
yeah this is what I expected.
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@Dashrender said:
This is my question - I know that Dell has created DPack to gain sales, but since they allow resellers to provide the service direct, hopefully skipping sales calls from Dell directly - what prevents someone from sharing the software and skipping the whole process? I'm guessing it's that the logged information has to go through some automated process that Dell has created along with DPACK to create the reports.
Because even their authorized third party DPACK reading engineer (cough cough) can't see the contents of the DPACK until Dell receives it, unpacks it and sends it to
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
This is my question - I know that Dell has created DPack to gain sales, but since they allow resellers to provide the service direct, hopefully skipping sales calls from Dell directly - what prevents someone from sharing the software and skipping the whole process? I'm guessing it's that the logged information has to go through some automated process that Dell has created along with DPACK to create the reports.
Because even their authorized third party DPACK reading engineer (cough cough) can't see the contents of the DPACK until Dell receives it, unpacks it and sends it to
methat engineer.Yep, figured..
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So the question is.... is it worth $150 to avoid being hassled by Dell.
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@Dashrender said:
So the question is.... is it worth $150 to avoid being hassled by Dell.
Yes, yes it is.I mean, absolutely!What I meant to say is... the big benefit is having a consulting engineer read the results who spends time with you talking about your environmental needs rather than a sales person reading the results and providing a sizing off of a 3-2-1 chart. The free option is there and you get exactly zero consulting with it. If you can ignore the sales person, it works out fine. But you get nothing other than the numbers. If you pay for
mean authorized DPACK read-back engineer then you get the numbers, capacity planning advice and all of that with a view towards how it applies to your business needs. Dell sales people don't even ask about your business needs. -
Definitely an excellent worthwhile investment.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
So the question is.... is it worth $150 to avoid being hassled by Dell.
Yes, yes it is.I mean, absolutely!What I meant to say is... the big benefit is having a consulting engineer read the results who spends time with you talking about your environmental needs rather than a sales person reading the results and providing a sizing off of a 3-2-1 chart. The free option is there and you get exactly zero consulting with it. If you can ignore the sales person, it works out fine. But you get nothing other than the numbers. If you pay for
mean authorized DPACK read-back engineer then you get the numbers, capacity planning advice and all of that with a view towards how it applies to your business needs. Dell sales people don't even ask about your business needs.I wish I had known about this option when I deployed my last system. It would have saved me a bit of time. Plus Dell and EMC wouldn't have called me every 3 days.
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@coliver said:
I wish I had known about this option when I deployed my last system. It would have saved me a bit of time. Plus Dell and EMC wouldn't have called me every 3 days.
Every so often I forget about that, and sign up for another webcast of the latest sales pitch. It's an easy way to find out about new features in products. It's also annoying getting the 20 sales calls afterwards.
