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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      I have not used this feature, but if you need sending, you can setup email to fax also.

      0_1454082799319_2016-01-29 09_52_49-VoIP.ms - Customer Portal_ Virtual FAX.png

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        That's super cool Jared! nice find.

        Of course if this is HIPAA information you probably can't use this solution, but still nice to have in the back pocket.

        Do not get me (or @scottalanmiller usually) started on faxing and HIPAA....

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said:

          @Dashrender said:

          That's super cool Jared! nice find.

          Of course if this is HIPAA information you probably can't use this solution, but still nice to have in the back pocket.

          Do not get me (or @scottalanmiller usually) started on faxing and HIPAA....

          A fax is secure, isn't it? 😉

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            @Dashrender said:

            That's super cool Jared! nice find.

            Of course if this is HIPAA information you probably can't use this solution, but still nice to have in the back pocket.

            Do not get me (or @scottalanmiller usually) started on faxing and HIPAA....

            That's fine - I won't. regardless - it's still the defacto standard of what all medicine in the USA uses for intra clinic communications.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              That's super cool Jared! nice find.

              Of course if this is HIPAA information you probably can't use this solution, but still nice to have in the back pocket.

              efax.com is more expensive than i like for a faxing solution, and they prepend a cover page (adding cost) that you cannot easily get around with MFP devices.

              But they have worked out some scheme to get marked as HIPAA compliant.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22
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                Doesn't HIPAA compliancy in this situation depend on the company offering the service? That would be my job to ask the right questions and determine whether or not we can use them.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  Is it possible to route these to a folder within a network share using specific ports maybe?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said:

                    Doesn't HIPAA compliancy in this situation depend on the company offering the service? That would be my job to ask the right questions and determine whether or not we can use them.

                    To some degree. It also depends on how you use them. And it depends on the technology.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said:

                      Is it possible to route these to a folder within a network share using specific ports maybe?

                      I'm unsure what you are picturing. What kinds of ports and where?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said:

                        Doesn't HIPAA compliancy in this situation depend on the company offering the service? That would be my job to ask the right questions and determine whether or not we can use them.

                        Correct. So in this case VOIPS.MS would have to have HIPAA compliant servers themselves, and ensure email based security when emailing you the faxes. Two things I'm sure VOIP.ms I'm guessing doesn't want to worry about.

                        All of the HIPAA compliant fax solutions I've seen so far are extremely expensive, on the order of $0.25/page or more. They won't email the faxes either. Instead they keep the faxes on their system where you have to log in via a secure web portal and then download them to your system.

                        We receive approximately 600 pages of faxes a day, 5 days a week, 12,600 a month. Currently because I handle everything in house storing to my already compliant storage, I pay $30/month for a phone line, and paid around $600 for a fax server. So my ongoing costs are very low.

                        The cheapest fax solution I looked at would have cost me nearly $900/month, plus I'd either have to setup a VPN to their servers (not a fan of) or log into their portal to download all of my faxes, using internet bandwidth, etc on top of the expense for the service.

                        They have all been a non starter for me.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Sorry if I'm not articulating this properly. I'm wondering if I can specify a port and use port fowarding to define what to do with the files depending on the number used

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
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                            I may be complicating this or not grasping everything though. haven't had my coffee yet and I'm also having conversations while reading and writing so pardon me please

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              @scottalanmiller Sorry if I'm not articulating this properly. I'm wondering if I can specify a port and use port fowarding to define what to do with the files depending on the number used

                              So a call comes in, why not just put the file in the right place? Why send the file out of the network, back thruogh a filewall, make port mapper and a file translation program to read ports and choose file locations based on that?

                              I must be missing something. If you can specify a port, can't you specify a folder instead?

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller I'm not sure if this is possible using http://voip.ms/ or services like it. From what I read it seems like everything is being filtered through VOIP.ms and then sent to us.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @wirestyle22
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                                  Ultimately not sure

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller I'm not sure if this is possible using http://voip.ms/ or services like it. From what I read it seems like everything is being filtered through VOIP.ms and then sent to us.

                                    Sent to you via what, though? What protocol?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller SIP and IAX2

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller I'm not sure if this is possible using http://voip.ms/ or services like it. From what I read it seems like everything is being filtered through VOIP.ms and then sent to us.

                                        Yes, they receive the fax on their system, then they email the fax to you.

                                        So unless they have all kinds of security in place, they can't do this for you in a HIPAA compliant way since they could read the faxes.

                                        Of course, as Scott's going to point out - they could read the faxes anyway since all the traffic flows over their SIP trunks (unencrypted by default), they could just syphon off a copy of the transmission and make their own fax - this is why everyone says faxes really aren't secure. Anyone that can tap the wire can record the call and reproduce the fax.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller SIP and IAX2

                                          VOIP.ms don't use SIP IAX2 to send the fax to you, they send it to your email address. JB's post shows that in his screen shot.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender What do we do if we can't abandon faxing and we also have HIPAA compliance to worry about?

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