Old Outlook, New Outlook or Outlook Web Access
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@Dashrender said:
Really? Than I take it you hate Outlook 2013 as well?
Never used/saw it.
I don't just upgrade because Microsoft tells me.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Really? Than I take it you hate Outlook 2013 as well?
Never used/saw it.
I don't just upgrade because Microsoft tells me.
^^^ humor attempt=For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I know I push OWA here as much as possible. Users are not the brightest and often complain 'we dont like the webmail'
That's what we use, too.I still can't get my head around people liking OWA more than Outlook. But again I am on Outlook 2007.
How does Outlook 2007 make it any better?
I think he's comparing his known experiences of Outlook 2007 vs OWA Exchange 2007. OWA in Exchange 2010 is a massive improvement, and the move to 2013 was even more so!
And 2016 is almost here!! Can't wait for that.
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@Dashrender said:
For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
What do you like about it so much more than Outlook 2007?
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OWA for Office365 has improved ALOT over the 2+ years. I was never a fan.. But I am now
Now, in regards to Office 2013 on desktops. PUKE. I hate the move they did from 2010. I find 2010 Office as the best in contrast to 2013 Office.. Otherwise, I nearly use OWA 100% for my email needs.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
What do you like about it so much more than Outlook 2007?
It's been so long since I've used Outlook 2007 the only thing I can specifically say is that it's way faster!
I think I have spell check now too, don't think OWA 2007 did.
I moved away from a local email client for personal use around 2000. I realized that I enjoyed having full access to all of my email anywhere I could get a browser to work. When it come to work, I haven't made the cut yet mainly because we're still on Exchange 2010 - and I like the Exchange 2013 interface a lot better (mostly it's just a color thing - the old yellow of OWA 2010 is grating to me lol).
One of the main things that prevented me from pushing staff to OWA when we first went to Exchange 2010 (where we started) was that you couldn't look at calendars side by side like you could in the Outlook client. But MS fixed that with one of the updates in Exchange 2010. From that point forward we could have easily moved to OWA use only. We use no add-ins for Outlook.
Not using OWA is one of the things that sucks about how our users move around so much.. computer share so much...
Many of my doctors over the past year have started using OWA because they are never in their office. They love the ability to sit down at a computer and basically get a fat client of Outlook in a browser so they can manipulate their calendars nearly, if not exactly, the same as they would in Outlook.
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@ntoxicator said:
OWA for Office365 has improved ALOT over the 2+ years. I was never a fan.. But I am now
Now, in regards to Office 2013 on desktops. PUKE. I hate the move they did from 2010. I find 2010 Office as the best in contrast to 2013 Office.. Otherwise, I nearly use OWA 100% for my email needs.
I would agree with your Office 2013 thoughts, but only for about the first year of it's release. Office 2013 was slow as molasses when it first came out. It seems they have resolved those issues with updates. I have 50% or more of my users on Office 2013 and no issues.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
What do you like about it so much more than Outlook 2007?
Speed, fluidity, stability, ease of use. I don't use many "features", I'm a light user in that way. For me OWA is way more responsive and takes many fewer system resources, doesn't corrupt, takes less management and doesn't store all of my data on the local device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I know I push OWA here as much as possible. Users are not the brightest and often complain 'we dont like the webmail'
That's what we use, too.I still can't get my head around people liking OWA more than Outlook. But again I am on Outlook 2007.
How does Outlook 2007 make it any better?
I think he's comparing his known experiences of Outlook 2007 vs OWA Exchange 2007. OWA in Exchange 2010 is a massive improvement, and the move to 2013 was even more so!
And 2016 is almost here!! Can't wait for that.
I have it - it has issues with Exchange 2010.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
What do you like about it so much more than Outlook 2007?
Speed, fluidity, stability, ease of use. I don't use many "features", I'm a light user in that way. For me OWA is way more responsive and takes many fewer system resources, doesn't corrupt, takes less management and doesn't store all of my data on the local device.
Talking about local storage - using OWA also means not OST/PST files - no less thing to worry about encrypting your drive over.
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Love the new thread split feature!
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
For sake of discussion, you might want to download the trial version and see what it's like... I'm guessing you'll hate it as much as you do O365. Frankly I think they just keep making it better!
What do you like about it so much more than Outlook 2007?
Speed, fluidity, stability, ease of use. I don't use many "features", I'm a light user in that way. For me OWA is way more responsive and takes many fewer system resources, doesn't corrupt, takes less management and doesn't store all of my data on the local device.
Talking about local storage - using OWA also means not OST/PST files - no less thing to worry about encrypting your drive over.
I know. That alone is HUGE.
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There are a few more to pull over if you can.
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@BRRABill said:
And the OWA doesn't store any personal files/cookies/data on the machine?
Or do you always use incognito?
There might be some cookies, but probably nothing you care about in it.
Data - sure, but it's all encrypted assuming you have SSL on your OWA server (or are using O365). By default all browsers (as far as I know) store SSL encryption encrypted on the drive while it's sitting in the browser cache. I also think the default is to delete those items once the browser is closed. -
@Dashrender said:
There are a few more to pull over if you can.
Once the pull happens, we are stuck.
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OST's where killing me when we first started with Exchange. Our users jump between all 12 of our physician's calendars all day long. The problem was that they couldn't do anything to the calendar (in online mode) until the calendar had downloaded to the local OST for the user in question. Then the changes the user made where not made in real time to Exchange, so someone else working on the same doctor wouldn't see the changes for several minutes or more.. and we wound up with double bookings.
This madness forced me to disable offline mode - and pushes me even harder to an OWA only environment.
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OSTs are evil. So much IT overhead goes into that stuff.
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Also, moving to OWA will most likely allow me to move 90% of my users to O365 and online versions of the apps, saving me a bundle over my current Full License with SA for Office I currently have, while at the same time giving me substantially more flexibility.
