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      RojoLoco
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      Something like deep freeze would be better to prevent kid damage. Reset at every reboot. There is no software that can stop a click-happy kid with a local admin account (what this scenario sounds like).

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        dafyre
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        I usually will only run one type of AV at a time... That said, I'm running Webroot right now... my machine is blazing fast, and WebRoot has stopped a few nasties for me!

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          MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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          @RojoLoco said:

          Something like deep freeze would be better to prevent kid damage. Reset at every reboot. There is no software that can stop a click-happy kid with a local admin account (what this scenario sounds like).

          Worked super well for my parents too.

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            BRRABill @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            I usually will only run one type of AV at a time... That said, I'm running Webroot right now... my machine is blazing fast, and WebRoot has stopped a few nasties for me!

            I just installed Webroot on someone's machine.

            It killed their drive encryption program (from Wave for a Samsung EVO), and is letting in a lot more SPAM than Norton did.

            I know Webroot gets good reviews, though.

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              scottalanmiller
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              Let's in more SPAM? That makes no sense. Webroot has nothing to do with email. We are talking AV here, not email scanning. Why did that get mentioned?

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                scottalanmiller
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                Also, why would someone be scanning for spam on their desktop?

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  Best option: Move to a Chromebook
                  Second best: Linux desktop
                  Third best: Windows with Deep Freeze
                  Fourth best: Windows with Webroot and MalwareBytes

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                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller

                    I don't know.

                    They were using Norton 360 and I guess it was filtering out SPAM for them.

                    I got a call later in the week about all this SPAM that was coming in that wasn't there before Webroot.

                    You are right, the two of them have nothing to do with each other.

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                      scottalanmiller
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                      We use Webroot and MalwareBytes, they both work very well.

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                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said:

                        @scottalanmiller

                        I don't know.

                        They were using Norton 360 and I guess it was filtering out SPAM for them.

                        I got a call later in the week about all this SPAM that was coming in that wasn't there before Webroot.

                        You are right, the two of them have nothing to do with each other.

                        That's why we can't let end users make decisions - they make disconnected associations and will do reckless things based on their imagination.

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                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          We use Webroot and MalwareBytes, they both work very well.

                          Webroot seems to have a great reputation.

                          I was surprised we had these issues, but as you (I think) implied it's apples to oranges.

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                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Best option: Move to a Chromebook
                            Second best: Linux desktop
                            Third best: Windows with Deep Freeze
                            Fourth best: Windows with Webroot and MalwareBytes

                            What? No Mac mention in there, too? LOL.

                            I'm going to look into Deep Freeze.

                            Does that freeze the entire machine, or just settings?

                            Like if the kid wants to download skins for a game, or update the game, etc.. Would that be allowed?

                            I think they are downloading stuff from rogue sites for their games. User education has failed.

                            They are young men, so other malicious sites could also be involved.

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                              Dashrender
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                              DeepFreeze prevents the system from writing anything to disk.

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                                BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                DeepFreeze prevents the system from writing anything to disk.

                                So for users that want to download game add-ons and the like, this probably isn't a good option?

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                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  DeepFreeze prevents the system from writing anything to disk.

                                  So for users that want to download game add-ons and the like, this probably isn't a good option?

                                  To install the add-ons full time, you have to unfreeze the system, reboot, install the add-ons, then refreeze, reboot and keep going.

                                  yes DeepFreeze is a HUGE pain in the ass for normal consumers.

                                  Think about it:
                                  no saving anything to the desktop
                                  no saving internet shortcuts/favorites

                                  installing anything required unfreezing, installing, refreezing
                                  Updating is the same.

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                                    BRRABill
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                                    It's intriguing, though.

                                    Sounds like MalwareBytes is the way to go, though, in this situation.Short of ChromeBooks and Linux. Not sure either of those are good gaming options. 🙂

                                    @scottalanmiller you've run MBAM along WITH AV with no issues?

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                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      We use Webroot and MalwareBytes, they both work very well.

                                      Webroot seems to have a great reputation.

                                      I was surprised we had these issues, but as you (I think) implied it's apples to oranges.

                                      It sounds like your only issue was with a disk encryption system. Unfortunately I have never heard of that one. Have you spoken to Webroot support or @nic to see if there is something that needs to be done to make sure that that works?

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                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Best option: Move to a Chromebook
                                        Second best: Linux desktop
                                        Third best: Windows with Deep Freeze
                                        Fourth best: Windows with Webroot and MalwareBytes

                                        What? No Mac mention in there, too? LOL.

                                        I'm going to look into Deep Freeze.

                                        Does that freeze the entire machine, or just settings?

                                        Like if the kid wants to download skins for a game, or update the game, etc.. Would that be allowed?

                                        I think they are downloading stuff from rogue sites for their games. User education has failed.

                                        They are young men, so other malicious sites could also be involved.

                                        Completely freezes the whole system.

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                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          DeepFreeze prevents the system from writing anything to disk.

                                          So for users that want to download game add-ons and the like, this probably isn't a good option?

                                          The ability to install is the ability to infect.

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                                            Dashrender
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                                            Personally - If you're that into gaming, you should have two devices. One for gaming, and one for everything else.

                                            This is no different than people who have an Xbox or PS4 and a laptop/desktop/ipad/chromebook, etc.

                                            don't think of the gaming PC as a multi-purpose device.. think of it a single purpose device.. GAMING. Then the only think you do on that machine is game and update it.

                                            everything else goes to your other devices.

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