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    • JoyJ
      Joy
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      Yes it is.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        I haven't used Untangle in that way before but I believe that it can only block when being used as a proxy and can only block HTTP not HTTPS which makes it a lot less useful than you would hope since nearly everything that you would want to block is HTTPS today.

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        • JoyJ
          Joy
          last edited by

          I can now connect to internet but i cannot block youtube.com for example.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Do you have Active Directory?

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            • JoyJ
              Joy @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller No. its not connected in Active Directory

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Do you have internal DNS at all? With AD you have to, without it it is optional.

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                • JoyJ
                  Joy @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller No in this network we are not using AD. Computers network are Workgroup only.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    But what about DNS? DNS is not related to AD other than AD relies on it. Many more networks have DNS than have AD.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
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                      it is difficult to control a work group environment, because users are admin over their computers, so they can change proxy setting, your only solution is to set your proxy in transparent mode, the problem in this mode as Mr Scott mention, you can only block http not https,
                      the other way to do web filtering is by DNS, so you can resolve youtube.com to your local ip or any private ip

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        it is difficult to control a work group environment, because users are admin over their computers, so they can change proxy setting, your only solution is to set your proxy in transparent mode, the problem in this mode as Mr Scott mention, you can only block http not https,
                        the other way to do web filtering is by DNS, so you can resolve youtube.com to your local ip or any private ip

                        Nothing makes them be admins more than in a domain environment. You can still lock them down the same in that way. More effort but same capacity.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller but in domain environment, once you joint a machine into your domain and login as a limited users, they cannot do anything, in opposition to work group except if you change the local policy setting

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            i mean by : they cannot do anything ----> they cannot change the system setting

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @scottalanmiller but in domain environment, once you joint a machine into your domain and login as a limited users, they cannot do anything, in opposition to work group except if you change the local policy setting

                              You can expose or lock out those settings in both settings. It's just manual in the workground setting. Definitely more work, a lot more work if you have a large number of users.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                @Joyfano Any reason that they are avoiding a domain setup? You have hundreds of users, it seems like being on a domain would be very important.

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                                • JoyJ
                                  Joy @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  it is difficult to control a work group environment, because users are admin over their computers, so they can change proxy setting, your only solution is to set your proxy in transparent mode, the problem in this mode as Mr Scott mention, you can only block http not https,
                                  the other way to do web filtering is by DNS, so you can resolve youtube.com to your local ip or any private ip

                                  Sorry but we have around 10 computers only in Workgroup. I created a standard account for them so they still don't have admin access in computers.

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                                  • JoyJ
                                    Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Joyfano Any reason that they are avoiding a domain setup? You have hundreds of users, it seems like being on a domain would be very important.

                                    We are using Domain in our production area. It happen that we need to set up a workgroup network in case of emergency " you know we are always having an internet problem,so i think that set up would be appropriate for them"

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                      @Joyfano said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Joyfano Any reason that they are avoiding a domain setup? You have hundreds of users, it seems like being on a domain would be very important.

                                      We are using Domain in our production area. It happen that we need to set up a workgroup network in case of emergency " you know we are always having an internet problem,so i think that set up would be appropriate for them"

                                      Does your Internet problems affect your domain? If so, how?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                        @Joyfano said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        it is difficult to control a work group environment, because users are admin over their computers, so they can change proxy setting, your only solution is to set your proxy in transparent mode, the problem in this mode as Mr Scott mention, you can only block http not https,
                                        the other way to do web filtering is by DNS, so you can resolve youtube.com to your local ip or any private ip

                                        Sorry but we have around 10 computers only in Workgroup. I created a standard account for them so they still don't have admin access in computers.

                                        Why not have the Wordgroup use the DNS from the AD then? Then you could use your DNS to block YouTube, Facebook, etc. But not MangoLassi, obviously 😉

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Do you have internal DNS at all? With AD you have to, without it it is optional.

                                          We have Local Domain in our Network. Sorry my answer is not clear.

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                                          • JoyJ
                                            Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Joyfano said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Joyfano Any reason that they are avoiding a domain setup? You have hundreds of users, it seems like being on a domain would be very important.

                                            We are using Domain in our production area. It happen that we need to set up a workgroup network in case of emergency " you know we are always having an internet problem,so i think that set up would be appropriate for them"

                                            Does your Internet problems affect your domain? If so, how?

                                            Its not. But we used to transfer the computers to other network if the other internet provider is down.

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