Storage Question
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Not likely, the lights are not part of the controller or the drives. that would be part of the proprietary mechanisms.
Not likely the amber will keep blinking, or not likely any lights will work at all.
I'd expect no lights at all.
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@BRRABill said:
Also, with that kind of setup, where do the SMART alerts go? I'm just used to using DELL stuff and it all goes through their Server Admin product.
Up the stack. The drives report to the RAID card. The RAID card reports to the driver in the OS. The driver reports to the OS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Also, with that kind of setup, where do the SMART alerts go? I'm just used to using DELL stuff and it all goes through their Server Admin product.
Up the stack. The drives report to the RAID card. The RAID card reports to the driver in the OS. The driver reports to the OS.
The OS in this case is Hyper-V
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Right, OS/Hypervisor. Whatever is sitting on the hardware.
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Again, excuse my DELL ignorance here, but on our current servers, if the hard drive was going, the server would turn orange, and OMSA would throw up an error.
I am assuming with a 3rd party RAID controller that all will be gone.
So in your setups, how is this handled? One of my original things was to keep the predictive alerts in place, and it seems like this solution is moving away from that.
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you'll have to setup alerts through Hyper-V to notify you when there is a problem. The Dell stuff wouldn't work any more.
Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.
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@BRRABill said:
Again, excuse my DELL ignorance here, but on our current servers, if the hard drive was going, the server would turn orange, and OMSA would throw up an error.
I am assuming with a 3rd party RAID controller that all will be gone.
Correct, all gone.
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@Dashrender said:
you'll have to setup alerts through Hyper-V to notify you when there is a problem. The Dell stuff wouldn't work any more.
Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.
XByte might have some more answers about that. They are dell reseller that works on the new and used side. They might be able to tell you what 3rd party SSD work with different Dell RAID cards.
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@Dashrender said:
Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.
You mean the DELL H710?
Apparently they are all the same.
Though there are a lot of people who do use 3rd parrty drives. I guess it all depends.
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@BRRABill said:
So in your setups, how is this handled? One of my original things was to keep the predictive alerts in place, and it seems like this solution is moving away from that.
We (NTG) don't use third party drives with proprietary server setups
If investing in a Dell, for example, we get all Dell as compatibility and warranty support are the big value.When going "piece together" we go with vendors like SuperMicro who make equipment designed for this kind of use case.
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@Dashrender said:
@Dashrender said:
you'll have to setup alerts through Hyper-V to notify you when there is a problem. The Dell stuff wouldn't work any more.
Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.
XByte might have some more answers about that. They are dell reseller that works on the new and used side. They might be able to tell you what 3rd party SSD work with different Dell RAID cards.
Refurbed, not used.
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That's the issue with buying a server every 10 years. You lose track of this stuff.
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@Dashrender said:
Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.
It will work but will not necessary provide all features.
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@BRRABill said:
That's the issue with buying a server every 10 years. You lose track of this stuff.
Just looked at the "other" thread. 95 posts to 16. Not too shabby. And this one is still active.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Just looked at the "other" thread. 95 posts to 16. Not too shabby. And this one is still active.
This was like a live chat!
And no, I don't think this one is done yet. Not even remotely.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We (NTG) don't use third party drives with proprietary server setups
If investing in a Dell, for example, we get all Dell as compatibility and warranty support are the big value.Do you ever use SSDs in DELL servers? Their prices are re-dic-culous!!
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@BRRABill said:
This was like a live chat!
yeah, the platform is excellent for rapid response. It gets people engaged in the discussion because it is updating in real time.
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@BRRABill said:
And no, I don't think this one is done yet. Not even remotely.
Just warming up, lol.
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This project is similar to Dustin's. You're basically starting over.
Great way to start that conversation is with a list of current servers and your goals. The goals don't include hardware typically, FYI.
Goals could be more reliable, lower power/heating/cooling/consolidation, etc.
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@BRRABill said:
Do you ever use SSDs in DELL servers? Their prices are re-dic-culous!!
That will be the same with HP too. It's a combination of factors. A big part of it is the built in support SLAs and replacement overhead.
