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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad
      last edited by

      Have you looked into hosted email options? For just fifteen users that would be pretty cheap and would eliminate an entire workload from your servers that you have in house. Most hosted email offerings are about four dollars a month, so that would be sixty dollars a month and cover the software, hosting, support, storage and whatnot. Might be worth looking into that option now while doing a big refresh. That would potentially really change what you are looking at as your needs internally.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Did we mention yet the option of looking at refurbed gear like xByte has? Will save some money and make things easier. If you are willing to forego the SSDs, you might be able to get into a server for far less and get fully supported NL-SAS drives for cheap and get all of the alerting and stuff.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          It sounds like the recommendation as of now is (hardware independent)

          1. Move the data and mail servers into VMs on the new DELL server.
          2. Use the data server as the DC and VPN server.
          3. Roll without a backup DC.
          • Windows Server 2012 R2 or wait for 2016 to release before making a big upgrade right before a major release
          • Two VMs on a single piece of hardware. Very low cost use of the licenses.
          • Move data and AD DC to a single VM
          • Move email to another VM or go hosted as @StrongBad mentioned
          • Roll without a DC
          • Make sure you have a good backup strategy
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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @StrongBad
            last edited by

            @StrongBad said:

            Oh no, you did it now. You are forever to be known as the "Purse Keeper."

            Always loved your videos. I'll take that from you. Haha.

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            • StrongBadS
              StrongBad
              last edited by

              Don't forget my video game too!

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @StrongBad
                last edited by

                @StrongBad said:

                Don't forget my video game too!

                That I never saw.

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @StrongBad said:

                  Don't forget my video game too!

                  That I never saw.

                  What!!

                  http://www.gog.com/game/strong_bads_cool_game_for_attractive_people

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    You can move to Rackspace for $1-2/user/month (depending on the spiceworks deal going on now)

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Xbyte has the T320 as well.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @StrongBad
                        last edited by

                        @StrongBad said:

                        Have you looked into hosted email options? For just fifteen users that would be pretty cheap and would eliminate an entire workload from your servers that you have in house. Most hosted email offerings are about four dollars a month, so that would be sixty dollars a month and cover the software, hosting, support, storage and whatnot. Might be worth looking into that option now while doing a big refresh. That would potentially really change what you are looking at as your needs internally.

                        I've thought about it, but for various reasons I do not want to go that route now. MDaemon has been great for us.

                        It's definitely in the future cards, though. We've been burned a few times with week-long power losses.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Xbyte has the T320 as well.

                          Who is this Xbyte, exactly?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            week-long power losses.

                            Good grief

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              Who is this Xbyte, exactly?

                              Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                week-long power losses.

                                Good grief

                                Notice the -es in that.

                                Happened twice in the span of 3 years.

                                I guess that is a good barometer of how we operate here. We knew the storms were coming, so I made sure everyone had a alternative e-mail address. We were also able to access our backups in the cloud, so I could grab any files anyone needed.

                                Kludgy, but it works.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

                                  I saw on Spiceworks that their SSDs are certified or something, so maybe their drives might fix my original issue.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    week-long power losses.

                                    Good grief

                                    Notice the -es in that.

                                    Happened twice in the span of 3 years.

                                    I guess that is a good barometer of how we operate here. We knew the storms were coming, so I made sure everyone had a alternative e-mail address. We were also able to access our backups in the cloud, so I could grab any files anyone needed.

                                    Kludgy, but it works.

                                    Wow - you should move everything to a colocated DC... use ZeroTier and have nothing onsite... then you can work from anywhere. Then to fix your phone system to do the same.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

                                      I saw on Spiceworks that their SSDs are certified or something, so maybe their drives might fix my original issue.

                                      They aren't "certified", they are actually Dell drives.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        They aren't "certified", they are actually Dell drives.

                                        I think they ones the sell are EDGE brand??

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          I've thought about it, but for various reasons I do not want to go that route now. MDaemon has been great for us.

                                          It's definitely in the future cards, though. We've been burned a few times with week-long power losses.

                                          Only issue would be that you are making your infrastructure decisions now and have to include this in there.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            They aren't "certified", they are actually Dell drives.

                                            I think they ones the sell are EDGE brand??

                                            Dell is just a reseller as well.

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