What is the best degree for IT?
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Some what related: http://mangolassi.it/topic/6527/the-college-conspiracy
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Here is a great example of why college degrees get zero respect: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1261417-anyone-with-implementing-spiceworks-at-work-as-final-year-degree-project
His final degree project is literally something so basic we'd expect a high school intern to do it with little, if any, direction. Double click the installer, fix authentication issues case by case. This is way below entry level stuff. And to be a degree final?!?! How can anyone take a college graduate seriously if they think that this somehow prepares them for working in IT?
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I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.
I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....
Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.
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This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.
I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....
Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.
Pretty much par for the college course, from what I've seen.
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@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
Those who can't... teach ?
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No not a criticism at all. But this is usually the second project we have interns do. Part of having them install this with little to no IT knowledge is to see how they go about researching and troubleshooting how to do something.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
More importantly it shows that the college program isn't up to a 6 year olds' familiarity of windows software installation yet.
The configuration portion it literally nothing more than copy and paste credentials and troubleshoot firewall issues.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
Those who can't... teach ?
Especially in IT where there is a shortage of people to work in the field and teaching does not prepare people to enter the field. So by teaching you would be doubly screwing people... except the assumption that the professors can't actually do what they are attempting to teach.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.
Might be one we've actually had them do.
It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.
More importantly it shows that the college program isn't up to a 6 year olds' familiarity of windows software installation yet.
The configuration portion it literally nothing more than copy and paste credentials and troubleshoot firewall issues.
Yup, extremely basic.
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@scottalanmiller said:
... except the assumption that the professors can't actually do what they are attempting to teach.
This is my assumption of anyone trying to teach technical level classes at a 4-year college. The folks that I had as teachers were excellent, but you could tell they had little-to-no real world IT Experience. At my technical college, however, the CCNA and A+ teachers actually knew their stuff forwards and backwards and sideways... the Cisco professor even knew his upside down, lol./
