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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Joy
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      @Joyfano said:

      @scottalanmiller I see. So I have a goal for this. That's why I need to learn from very basic.

      Just be aware that using it as a desktop can make that harder because you get caught up playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux.

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      • JoyJ
        Joy @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller " playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux."
        what do you mean? my brain is not working...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Joy
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          @Joyfano said:

          @scottalanmiller " playing with the graphics and stuff rather than actually learning Linux."
          what do you mean? my brain is not working...

          Meaning people who use Linux as a desktop tend to spend their time finding cool applications to install, changing the wall paper, worrying about where the buttons are, etc. The same things that normal people using Windows do. But those "normal" things don't really teach you anything about Linux - not using Linux as a server. On a server you are really doing completely different tasks and when people say "learn Linux" it is the server tasks that they mean. Using it as a desktop encourages you to use it as a "end user" rather than as a "systems administrator." Nothing wrong with having a Linux desktop and it makes working with servers even easier (wait till you see how sweet the terminal integration is.)

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          • JoyJ
            Joy @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller ahh I see. now I know 🙂

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Mint is very different than CentOS, but is a great desktop. Fedora is an okay desktop but is basically identical to CentOS. So it is a tradeoff. Fedora is better for learning, Mint is better for using.

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              • JoyJ
                Joy @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I installed Centos here. but I haven't really a chance to use all the time

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                • RoguePacketR
                  RoguePacket
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                  Few thoughts—

                  • Various tutorials, http://www.linux.org/
                  • http://www.professormesser.com/linux-plus/linux-training-videos/

                  "Linux" is one piece. Usually there is scripting and getting to know the commands/programs, e.g. rsync. Straightforward project is using VirtualBox to run a Windows 7 VM on the linux distro of choice. Try a trial version of VMware Workstation for Linux to see how it is different than VirtualBox. And so on.

                  Find Linux magazines and take note to which projects/articles you read rather than skip over. That is an indication of what you want to do &/or know. Not advocating buying these, but let yourself get a gauge of what to fuel your motivation—

                  • http://www.linuxjournal.com/
                  • http://www.linuxformat.com/
                  • https://www.imagineshop.co.uk/bookazines/linux-and-open-source-genius-guide-vol-4.html

                  Just a few thoughts.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @Joyfano Mint is great. Ubuntu is still nice if you rip Unity out and put GNOME back on where it belongs!

                    I would not do this, ever. All the badness of Ubuntu for no reason, plus all the issues of being new to the OS and having to "rip out" the intended interface and then, when you are done, having Gnome 3 which is still hard to use and will turn someone off from trying to learn Linux. All bad. I only think Mint is acceptable because Cinnamon is native, works out of the box and you never need to deal with changing things around. It's the only condition that I'd ever recommend a Debian based system for someone new to Linux and only if I thought that they were really focused on using it as a desktop. Ubuntu is a general no-no for new users because it is unnecessarily confusing and will make Linux seem much less friendly and useful than it is.

                    YMMV. I've done that before but I started back when Ubuntu was still good.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom
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                      @joyfano Haven't read every post completely yet. What are you using the CentOS for so far?

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                      • JoyJ
                        Joy @thanksajdotcom
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                        @ajstringham I haven't read all the post completely.. But I will do that later 🙂

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @Joy
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                          @Joyfano said:

                          @ajstringham I haven't read all the post completely.. But I will do that later 🙂

                          Figure out an application you want to try and just go with it!

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                          • JoyJ
                            Joy @thanksajdotcom
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                            @ajstringham Sure.. I will 😉 Thanks..

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                            • RoguePacketR
                              RoguePacket
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                              When starting & playing with it, use a VM. We don't want this to happen (https://xkcd.com/349/)—

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                She already gave her laptop over to Mint!

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                                • JoyJ
                                  Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller yes I already use Mint.
                                  @roguepacket that was very nice things to read..

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                    @Joyfano said:

                                    @scottalanmiller yes I already use Mint.
                                    @roguepacket that was very nice things to read..

                                    I installed Mint 16 on my desktop today too.

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                                    • JoyJ
                                      Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller I have a problem I cannot connect my computer to wireless 😞

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                                      • RoguePacketR
                                        RoguePacket @Joy
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                                        @Joyfano VirtualBox gives an area to play with different OS and configurations. Such as, CentOS guest while using the preferred MInt host. Similarly, can explore Ubuntu, Knoppix, Kali, Backtrack, or other distro. And! Break them. Snapshot to go back-forth with changes. All sorts of goodness.

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy @RoguePacket
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                                          @RoguePacket I will explore these soon 🙂

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                            @Joyfano said:

                                            @scottalanmiller I have a problem I cannot connect my computer to wireless 😞

                                            Maybe a driver is missing.

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