DNS - IPv6
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I've done the move before, with a little good planning it is surprisingly simple and painless. Normally, at least.
Frankly I'd prefer to jump directly to IPv6, but like the rest i have many printers that don't support IPv6. I wonder if my IP phones do? Not that I need to really worry about them.
I would hope so, all of our phones and printer support IPv6.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Otherwise we'd have a rather flat network if we ran IPv6. Compared to the 5 subnets we have.
I also have several subnets. But considering what I know today, I'm looking to move to a single /23 or /22. Because of switches you don't have to worry about 1000 devices being in the same subnet anymore. Sure broadcast storm could bring you down, so you have to fix those quickly, but you'd have to anyway.
I'm not looking forward to reworking my network for a /22 though, ug!
At least I only have around 200 devices. 4/5's are DHCP, but the darn phones is the biggest pain, currently not DHCP.I did this move two years ago. Don't forget about your printers... those can be a pain to deal with.
Yep - main things that have static IPs - Printers, Phones, Server and Switches!!
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I've done the move before, with a little good planning it is surprisingly simple and painless. Normally, at least.
Frankly I'd prefer to jump directly to IPv6, but like the rest i have many printers that don't support IPv6. I wonder if my IP phones do? Not that I need to really worry about them.
I would hope so, all of our phones and printer support IPv6.
Dymo label print servers don't support IPv6
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@Dashrender said:
Yep - main things that have static IPs - Printers, Phones, Server and Switches!!
You have phones with Staitc IPs? that's a lot of trouble for nothing.
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@Dashrender said:
Dymo label print servers don't support IPv6
I wouldn't know, we consider those consumer grade they break too much. We use ones like these:
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@Jason said:
You have phones with Staitc IPs? that's a lot of trouble for nothing.
I didn't set them up, the vendor did, 8 years ago.
The new building we just did uses DHCP for the phones - it was kinda nice.. there are two DHCP servers on the same LAN, the phone system has one with a small range only for the phones, and only responds to requests that have a MAC in a qualified range.How the phones don't take an IP from my Windows DHCP if it responds first, is beyond me - but so far no issues.
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
Dymo label print servers don't support IPv6
I wouldn't know, we consider those consumer grade they break too much. We use ones like these:
OMG dude! $1600? NO WAY! We have 8 Dymo's that cost a total of $300 each. I could replace every unit 5 times and still have money left over for those of those. Plus the Dymo's aren't so unreliable as to make the expense worthwhile (i.e. save support time to warrant the expense).
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Zebra makes a great label printer. Really just a top notch machine. They come in at the same price range as Cub Printers though.
Cub seems to be a knock off though.
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@Dashrender said:
OMG dude! $1600? NO WAY! We have 8 Dymo's that cost a total of $300 each. I could replace every unit 5 times and still have money left over for those of those. Plus the Dymo's aren't so unreliable as to make the expense worthwhile (i.e. save support time to warrant the expense).
And we haven't had to replace a single unit so far. You can just replace $25-$50 parts in them many of them are 10+ years old now because they are designed to be run so long both in build and driver support.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Cub seems to be a knock off though.
Cub isn't a knock off, they only make stuff for industrial use.
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How long as Cub been around, I haven't heard of them until now.
Zebra Printers have been around for a very long time, and I have units in production that are older than I am. (30 years old) that have never skipped a beat.
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That's great, and in an industrial environment I can totally see their use. In a medial clinic, they are over kill.
If I had to replace one every year - it might, might make sense.. but I haven't had one die yet, most are 2 years old now. I expect to get 3-8 years out of them.
But I'm in a clean, non industrial environment.
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@DustinB3403 said:
How long as Cub been around, I haven't heard of them until now.
That doesn't make them a knock off.
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@Jason said:
That doesn't make them a knock off.
And apple's never used a patient without paying for it....
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Jason said:
That doesn't make them a knock off.
And apple's never used a patient without paying for it....
OK kids.. play nice
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@Dashrender said:
How the phones don't take an IP from my Windows DHCP if it responds first, is beyond me - but so far no issues.
It's called playing fast and loose. Works often, no guarantees. It's called taking a risk and walking away leaving the potential future issues for the customer to deal with.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
How the phones don't take an IP from my Windows DHCP if it responds first, is beyond me - but so far no issues.
It's called playing fast and loose. Works often, no guarantees. It's called taking a risk and walking away leaving the potential future issues for the customer to deal with.
They asked if it was OK.. It seemed OK at the time. But I could see the potential for issues in the long run. I'll consider changing it when I move to the flat network...
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@Dashrender said:
I'll consider changing it when I move to the flat network...
You are not on a flat network? That is how it works. You can have as many DHCP servers as you want as long as they do not see each other.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
I'll consider changing it when I move to the flat network...
You are not on a flat network? That is how it works. You can have as many DHCP servers as you want as long as they do not see each other.
No, I have several subnets. The networks see each other through a router.
I'm not sure what you mean that you can have many DHCP servers as long as they don't see each other?
In my current setup, at this branch location of 10 PC's and 16 phones I have two DHCP servers. Each provide IPs for a different range in the same subnet. The Mitel PBX has a DHCP server but only responds to Mac addresses belonging to Mitel phones. The windows DHCP will respond to everything. My question was - what happens if the Windows server responds to a phone faster than the Mitel DHCP server? I'm guessing the phone wouldn't work.
This branch will probably always be on a different subnet (local to that location), but my main office has 5 /24 subnets.. I'd like to move them to one /22 subnet.