Off Site backup solutions for the SOHO user. What do you all use?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Why isn't Aaron getting them to post here then? They'd be great community members!
Dunno, I'll ask. I know they are involved with the reddit folks, and sponsor national backup day.
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They'd be great here and Aaron already knows everyone.
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I really like Backblaze as well and use it at home. You have no storage limits and can backup files of any size. We use a corporate account where I work and have it on about 20 workstations / laptops, and that is $50 per year per computer.
But I will say I really like Crashplan Pro too. And if you need version history storage and the ability to restore from a particular version of a file, CrashPlan is going to beat Backblaze every time. With Backblaze, you will get the latest version of the files on the machine only. The price point is more like $85 per computer per year for the unlimited storage plan.
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@Dashrender said:
What kinds of files are they? If you're using Office 365 why not store everything in Sharepoint? Of course that doesn't work very well for large files, but normal office docs it's probably great.
Because it is a mix of personal and private data. Most of the work data is going to be migrated to Sharepoint simply because I am going to do it for my own ease of use and will keep telling my boss to find my changes there until he starts using it.
I liked the looks of BackBlaze and will give it a try now thanks to everyone's reviews.
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I like BackBlaze because you just set and forget. You backup everything on the machine, you don't have to worry about missing anything.
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I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
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@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
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@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
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@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
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@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Thanks @alexntg
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@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.
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@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
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@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.
You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.
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Pertino would remove the need to set it up for external users. This mitigates the risk for things like external attacks
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@alexntg said:
@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.
You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.
Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.
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@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
@alexntg said:
@technobabble said:
I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.
I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.
That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.
So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?
The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.
Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.
You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.
Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.
CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).
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@alexntg said:
@Dashrender said:
Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.
CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).
Do you have to publish your onsite CrashPlan server to the internet? or does CrashPlan act as a middleman like Skype used to before they decided to bend the will of the NSA?
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@Dashrender said:
@alexntg said:
@Dashrender said:
Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.
CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).
Do you have to publish your onsite CrashPlan server to the internet? or does CrashPlan act as a middleman like Skype used to before they decided to bend the will of the NSA?
For backups over the Internet with CrashPlan PROe, you'd need to open up some firewall ports and make an appropriate external DNS entry. Your machines would back up directly to your server. CrashPlan PRO is the version that backs up to CrashPlan's hosted service.
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You could use Cubby by LogMeIn and make the user's desktop, documents, etc. all cubbies.
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Here is an additional question regarding CrashPlan PROe. How well does it handle super sized files such as a VM backup? If I go with something like this for a private cloud I may as well get my Veeam backups included. How hard would it choke on something like this if the outbound pipe was say 10mbps.
