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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @creayt
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      @creayt said:

      Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

      Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

      There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        In the disk manager it should just be called a mirrored set.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Of course Windows 10 final is just out today, so there might be things that we don't know about it yet.

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          • creaytC
            creayt @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @creayt said:

            Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

            Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

            There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

            I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID. Can't you only create software RAIDS the built-in Windows way post-install? Hoping to do a 3-disk Raid 0 on a new laptop that has 3 mSata slots.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller
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              It's fairly uncommon for a mobo to not have basic RAID capability - you may be in luck with that.

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              • ?
                A Former User @creayt
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                @creayt said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @creayt said:

                Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

                Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

                There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

                I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID. Can't you only create software RAIDS the built-in Windows way post-install? Hoping to do a 3-disk Raid 0 on a new laptop that has 3 mSata slots.

                Yep its post install but that doesn't mean much you can shrink and grow drives etc with no downtime (at least on server s, I don't work on client os much). I'd no raid over windows. If this is a high end computer it might have a raid option Rom or settings in the bios for it. I know my HP z800 has full on LSI raid built into the motherboard but its basicly server grade, not consumer.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  It's fairly uncommon for a mobo to not have basic RAID capability - you may be in luck with that.

                  Just keep in mind that what is on the motherboard will be, with only the rarest exception, FakeRAID. This is low end (far below Windows desktop software RAID) software RAID with the dubious situation of attempting to lie to the customers about it being on the motherboard. There isn't actually anything on the motherboard, it is all software.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @creayt
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                    @creayt said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @creayt said:

                    Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

                    Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

                    There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

                    I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID. Can't you only create software RAIDS the built-in Windows way post-install? Hoping to do a 3-disk Raid 0 on a new laptop that has 3 mSata slots.

                    Oh, that's more information that we needed. RAID 1 is supported for the OS, RAID 0 is not.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      Yep its post install but that doesn't mean much you can shrink and grow drives etc with no downtime (at least on server s, I don't work on client os much). I'd no raid over windows. If this is a high end computer it might have a raid option Rom or settings in the bios for it. I know my HP z800 has full on LSI raid built into the motherboard but its basicly server grade, not consumer.

                      Some do. If you can get an LSI you are in great shape!

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Just keep in mind that what is on the motherboard will be, with only the rarest exception, FakeRAID. This is low end (far below Windows desktop software RAID) software RAID with the dubious situation of attempting to lie to the customers about it being on the motherboard. There isn't actually anything on the motherboard, it is all software.

                        Yup, sure makes it easier to setup though haha

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @creayt
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                          @creayt said:

                          I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID.

                          So was I. Just RAID 1, which it does support.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @creayt said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @creayt said:

                            Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

                            Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

                            There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

                            I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID. Can't you only create software RAIDS the built-in Windows way post-install? Hoping to do a 3-disk Raid 0 on a new laptop that has 3 mSata slots.

                            Oh, that's more information that we needed. RAID 1 is supported for the OS, RAID 0 is not.

                            Yep. Didn't even catch that.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @creayt said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @creayt said:

                              Is there a way to install Windows onto a software RAID? Is this just impossible?

                              Ever since Windows 7 it has been native in the OS for the desktop versions. It's been on the server side since 1996 or earlier. It's just built in.

                              There are third party software RAID options too, but they are not very good either.

                              I'm talking about installling the OS onto a RAID. Can't you only create software RAIDS the built-in Windows way post-install? Hoping to do a 3-disk Raid 0 on a new laptop that has 3 mSata slots.

                              Oh, that's more information that we needed. RAID 1 is supported for the OS, RAID 0 is not.

                              Yep. Didn't even catch that.

                              I just happened to have read that thirty minutes ago or I would not have realized it either.

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                              • creaytC
                                creayt
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                                Ok, so no way to do it other than w/ a shitty on-laptop-motherboard fake RAID. Sad/check.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @creayt
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                                  @creayt said:

                                  Ok, so no way to do it other than w/ a shitty on-laptop-motherboard fake RAID. Sad/check.

                                  Correct.

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