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    How can a small (one man shop) ITSP offer DaaS realisticly?

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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @art_of_shred
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      @art_of_shred I lack enough upvotes for this.

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        A Former User @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

        DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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          @thecreativeone91 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

          DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

          That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred
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            This is the root problem with IT spheres: TDMA! (too darn many acronyms)

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Which search on DaaS turned up Desktop as a Server outranking Data as a Service in the rankings. DaaS I've known for many years, but it was always desktop.

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                A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @thecreativeone91 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

                DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

                That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?

                Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I'm familiar with Data as a Server as a general concept, BUT don't have any idea how it would relate to the example applications listed.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @art_of_shred
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                    @art_of_shred said:

                    This is the root problem with IT spheres: TDMA! (too darn many acronyms)

                    Yep. it's getting out of hand.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

                      DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

                      That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?

                      Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.

                      That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.

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                        A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

                        DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

                        That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?

                        Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.

                        That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.

                        DaaS is the bigger umbera for "anything" as a service really. pointless term if you ask me.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server

                          DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.

                          That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?

                          Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.

                          That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.

                          DaaS is the bigger umbera for "anything" as a service really.

                          Are you sure? That's not what the name means, logic would dictate or the descriptions that I have seen state. It's a very common, logical thing. Imgur is a DaaS vendor, for example. They don't provide an app, per se, but they provide a data stream that you pay to have access to in order to "mash" into other applications.

                          DaaS is API driven data provisioning. It's not a loose term from what I have seen nor does it make any sense to be.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Wikipedia gives this example, which is exactly how I understand DaaS to be:

                            Data provided as a service was at first primarily used in Web mashups, but now is being increasingly employed both commercially and, less commonly, within organisations such as the UN.

                            These are not things that SMBs normally use. It's basically database access but not to an empty database that you population, but to a populated database that is read only. You literally as buying access to data.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Other examples of DaaS would be the Google Maps system. You can get that as DaaS and use it in other places for your own applications. Imgur is a good example. Customer lists, The US Do Not Call List and other data services would be DaaS.

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                                A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Wikipedia gives this example, which is exactly how I understand DaaS to be:

                                Data provided as a service was at first primarily used in Web mashups, but now is being increasingly employed both commercially and, less commonly, within organisations such as the UN.

                                These are not things that SMBs normally use. It's basically database access but not to an empty database that you population, but to a populated database that is read only. You literally as buying access to data.

                                That's what I used to think, but that's not how I've seen sales people using it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  That's what I used to think, but that's not how I've seen sales people using it.

                                  Well as sales people neither are educated in this stuff nor have any interest in getting right and, in fact, make money confusing people, that supports that we were correct the first time.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Easy way to know if you should buy a service from a salesperson.... if they don't know the name for what their product is, run away.

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Wikipedia gives this example, which is exactly how I understand DaaS to be:

                                      Data provided as a service was at first primarily used in Web mashups, but now is being increasingly employed both commercially and, less commonly, within organisations such as the UN.

                                      These are not things that SMBs normally use. It's basically database access but not to an empty database that you population, but to a populated database that is read only. You literally as buying access to data.

                                      That's what I used to think, but that's not how I've seen sales people using it.

                                      If we adopted "what sales people think" into how we did things, what would the world look like? Scary!!!

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User
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                                        sorry, meant desktop as a service

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                          @Hubtech said:

                                          sorry, meant desktop as a service

                                          That makes way more sense to me 🙂

                                          But you didn't mention an OS, just apps. Desktop as a service is just offering Windows, Mac (not licensed to exist yet) or Linux that you access via RDP, NX, PCoIP or similar.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            If you intend to do Windows, which I expect is true, you have to do VDI. There isn't a way to do multi-tenant remote desktops for third parties without VDI, I don't think. Unless you do "customer by customer" RDS or XenApp servers which gets really complex.

                                            Amazon does VDI. Not sure how you would effectively compete with Amazon's mature offering.

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