How can a small (one man shop) ITSP offer DaaS realisticly?
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What exactly do your clients need?
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I've personally taken the view of not trying to offer a service like this, or pretending to be big enough to offer it.
The client will eventually catch you out, It's better to be upfront with them that you provide x/y/z and another provider will offer q/r/s instead.
Cloud@Cost looked amazing on paper, yet many of us from experience have shunned them (rightly so) I would encourage you to trial/test out different providers VMs before going anywhere near offering them to a customer.
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You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server, but then your example is not operating systems but applications. Are you actually looking to do DaaS where you provide remotely accessible desktops (look at Amazon for a major provider of these) or do you mean SaaS which is the only case where you would list specific applications like this?
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Well, it could be Disaster as a Service, where you break their crap and send them a bill.
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@art_of_shred I lack enough upvotes for this.
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@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?
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This is the root problem with IT spheres: TDMA! (too darn many acronyms)
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Which search on DaaS turned up Desktop as a Server outranking Data as a Service in the rankings. DaaS I've known for many years, but it was always desktop.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?
Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.
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I'm familiar with Data as a Server as a general concept, BUT don't have any idea how it would relate to the example applications listed.
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@art_of_shred said:
This is the root problem with IT spheres: TDMA! (too darn many acronyms)
Yep. it's getting out of hand.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?
Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.
That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?
Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.
That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.
DaaS is the bigger umbera for "anything" as a service really. pointless term if you ask me.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You say DaaS, I assume that you are meaning Desktop as a Server
DaaS is Data as a Service not desktop as a service. Though I suppose desktops could fall under that with VDIs too.
That is the first that I have heard of this term. So what is "Data as a Service" for Exchange, for example. Since Hosted Exchange is SaaS, would DaaS refer to sending emails to people use are using Exchange? What does this refer to?
Pretty much anything that can have Data. It's basically a very big umbrella. So Exchange, Sharepoint, Desktops, File Servers, file sharing, bussiness applications, ERPs et etc.
That's SaaS. DaaS is different. Offering those themselves is SaaS. DaaS is actually offering data, not applications, as a service.
DaaS is the bigger umbera for "anything" as a service really.
Are you sure? That's not what the name means, logic would dictate or the descriptions that I have seen state. It's a very common, logical thing. Imgur is a DaaS vendor, for example. They don't provide an app, per se, but they provide a data stream that you pay to have access to in order to "mash" into other applications.
DaaS is API driven data provisioning. It's not a loose term from what I have seen nor does it make any sense to be.
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Wikipedia gives this example, which is exactly how I understand DaaS to be:
Data provided as a service was at first primarily used in Web mashups, but now is being increasingly employed both commercially and, less commonly, within organisations such as the UN.
These are not things that SMBs normally use. It's basically database access but not to an empty database that you population, but to a populated database that is read only. You literally as buying access to data.
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Other examples of DaaS would be the Google Maps system. You can get that as DaaS and use it in other places for your own applications. Imgur is a good example. Customer lists, The US Do Not Call List and other data services would be DaaS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Wikipedia gives this example, which is exactly how I understand DaaS to be:
Data provided as a service was at first primarily used in Web mashups, but now is being increasingly employed both commercially and, less commonly, within organisations such as the UN.
These are not things that SMBs normally use. It's basically database access but not to an empty database that you population, but to a populated database that is read only. You literally as buying access to data.
That's what I used to think, but that's not how I've seen sales people using it.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
That's what I used to think, but that's not how I've seen sales people using it.
Well as sales people neither are educated in this stuff nor have any interest in getting right and, in fact, make money confusing people, that supports that we were correct the first time.
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Easy way to know if you should buy a service from a salesperson.... if they don't know the name for what their product is, run away.
