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    • Mike RalstonM
      Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller He's not able to get a job, and the only way to his town is via Bus. We're looking at the legal implications of emigrating two Spanish Citizens into the US

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      • Mike RalstonM
        Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller They cannot get welfare or any sort of governmental compensation.

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        • Mike RalstonM
          Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller If you have advice, please clearly lay it out here, so that we can make adjustments ASAP

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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            @Mike-Ralston said:

            @scottalanmiller He's not able to get a job, and the only way to his town is via Bus. We're looking at the legal implications of emigrating two Spanish Citizens into the US

            It's HARD. The US is the worst possible option for them. They could WALK to places in the EU or Switzerland and be able to work anywhere, for the cost of food and walking.

            How did someone come up with the US as an option? Where could it possibly be worse to send them?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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              @Mike-Ralston said:

              @scottalanmiller They cannot get welfare or any sort of governmental compensation.

              That's very fishy. The EU has the best welfare programs in the world. You think that they will get stuff in the US when their own nation(s) won't help them?

              I've never heard of someone not getting assistance in Spain. Have you verified this?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                @Mike-Ralston said:

                @scottalanmiller They cannot get welfare or any sort of governmental compensation.

                That's very fishy. The EU has the best welfare programs in the world. You think that they will get stuff in the US when their own nation(s) won't help them?

                I've never heard of someone not getting assistance in Spain. Have you verified this?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                  @Mike-Ralston said:

                  @scottalanmiller If you have advice, please clearly lay it out here, so that we can make adjustments ASAP

                  Flights can be cheap, Aer Lingus, Norwegian Shuttle, etc. Check prices. We got a family of four to Spain for less than $2K a month ago. @ryanov is here having flown in from NY and thinking these prices are completely crazy too. He is fling back to the US tomorrow.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    What city are they in? Where are they? Spain is a very large country.

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                    • Mike RalstonM
                      Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller And there was massive miscommunication for price set. Shouldn't be more than 1K both for one way for them to take a small amount of luggage with them.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                        @Mike-Ralston said:

                        @scottalanmiller And there was massive miscommunication for price set. Shouldn't be more than 1K both for one way for them to take a small amount of luggage with them.

                        Yes, $1K total for both would be hunting for the best possible prices. $700 per person is a reasonable amount, and nowhere near the lowest.

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                        • Mike RalstonM
                          Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Everyone at this point is freaking out to a massive degree, I'm trying to be the voice of reason here, it's not working.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            If they could raise $5K, which is their target amount, they could, in theory, live in Spain for a long time. Using it to get to the US might screw them - trapping them in a country where they lack the necessary citizenship to function. The US is NOT a welcoming country, in general. I hope no one has told them that this is a good idea.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                              @Mike-Ralston said:

                              @scottalanmiller Everyone at this point is freaking out to a massive degree, I'm trying to be the voice of reason here, it's not working.

                              How do you know them? What city!?!? At least what region / state?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Get them to Germany where there is massive welfare, moderate numbers of jobs and they are already clear to work and don't even need a passport. I've got good friends who just hitchhiked across France with no jobs, no money and did just fine. Like five days ago.

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                                • Mike RalstonM
                                  Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller He's closest to Magala(?)

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    And it isn't like I don't have connections in the capital. I could really find things out if I had more info.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                                      @Mike-Ralston said:

                                      @scottalanmiller He's closest to Magala(?)

                                      LOL. Will be in Malaga in four hours. Taking @ryanov to the airport there shortly. Was just there. Got friends arriving there later this morning. They are one province over from me, still in the same state.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Are they from there? Tell them I am in La Alpujarra, in Granada province.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Andalucia, which Malaga is in, is the poorest part of the Spain - the hardest hit from the financial crunch. But also the cheapest to live in. Money goes FAR here. Malaga is on the Costa del Sol, the world famous stretch of resorts on Europe's best beaches. It's the largest city of the region and the provincial capital.

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                                          • Mike RalstonM
                                            Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller it's just the nearest place with an airport I guess

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