Pertino Questions
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Yeah, I guess this is why you spin up a guest network on your router and have it use the router as the DHCP server and DNS via Google/L3/OpenDNS servers.
Or BIND or other DNS service locally. There are lots of benefits to doing non-Windows services whenever they are available to you.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@Hubtech said:
this is why I hate posting here. who said anything about CALs @thecreativeone91 ?????
It's a valid point. But I do agree that people on here tend to be a bit of sticklers for the EXACT terms of a license agreement.
That's one of the core functions of working in IT. Especially people working in the Windows world. Doing our core job isn't exactly being "sticklers." That's like saying not allowing your kids to steal candybars from the grocery store is like being "sticklers for shoplifting."
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@Hubtech said:
this is why I hate posting here. who said anything about CALs @thecreativeone91 ?????
It's a valid point. But I do agree that people on here tend to be a bit of sticklers for the EXACT terms of a license agreement.
That's one of the core functions of working in IT. Especially people working in the Windows world. Doing our core job isn't exactly being "sticklers." That's like saying not allowing your kids to steal candybars from the grocery store is like being "sticklers for shoplifting."
I agree that in a perfect world the IT and the business/financial portions are completely separate. However, the reality for many people is that this is not the case.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
I agree that in a perfect world the IT and the business/financial portions are completely separate. However, the reality for many people is that this is not the case.
Not really. A lot of IT people take on this personal feeling that they have to find ways to make things cheaper than they can be, but that's not something that they are ever obligated to do. The law is very clear that needing to help someone steal is never part of your job, ever. No matter what your job description or mandate is. You can never be asked to or required to do this.
Unless the IT person is the owner of the company, they don't have the financial ties to not spend money. Many (most maybe) imagine that they do, but this is a quirk of people who work in IT. If Windows seems outrageously expensive you should be comparing against other options and considering alternatives, if you jump to "how can I not get caught if I don't pay for this", you have crossed a line and are not acting as an IT person and are taking on a responsibility you in no way have.
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No matter what the case is, AJ, the feeling that you need to, should or just "can get away with" circumventing your contractual, ethical or legal requirements is absolutely not part of working in IT any more than stealing car parts to lower the cost of repairs is the job of an auto mechanic.
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I think the thread doubled in size since scott's arrival.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
I think the thread doubled in size since scott's arrival.
Welcome to the norm of posting on the same community at @scottalanmiller ...lol
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@scottalanmiller said:
No matter what the case is, AJ, the feeling that you need to, should or just "can get away with" circumventing your contractual, ethical or legal requirements is absolutely not part of working in IT any more than stealing car parts to lower the cost of repairs is the job of an auto mechanic.
Fair enough. Your point is valid.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Welcome to the norm of posting on the same community at @scottalanmiller ...lol
So basically, don't post anywhere on the internet. He's everywhere it seems
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I am. I'm everywhere.
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Well this thread went off the deep end fast...
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@scottalanmiller said:
I am. I'm everywhere.
Not quite. There are places that I post regularly you're not. But it's a niche area.
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Straight off a cliff, Let's blame Scott.
Moving back to Pertino, how many people here are using it as a paid service in production?
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@Breffni-Potter said:
Straight off a cliff, Let's blame Scott.
Moving back to Pertino, how many people here are using it as a paid service in production?
I use it as a paid service and use it in my personal production network...
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@Breffni-Potter said:
Moving back to Pertino, how many people here are using it as a paid service in production?
Not me. I've toyed around with it. But don't have much uses for a VPN that needs a client on every device. I used some mesh VPN's at the network level but mostly hub and spoke.
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We use Pertino in production. Both internally at NTG and at some customers. NTG's fully remote, servers in datacenters, approach works perfectly with their model. We have no LAN traffic making it a no-brainer.
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It's important to remember that while there is a VPN there, the product is really about being a software defined network. The idea is to be an overlay on your current network that gives you a LAN where one did not exist before.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The idea is to be an overlay on your current network that gives you a LAN where one did not exist before.
This here is why I have a Pertino subscription at one client. The sales guy always have access to his stuff. Period.
