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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      How can the EU recognize a nation that exists solely within the boundaries of a country that is a member.

      Same way that the US does.

      example?

      Native American's, right?

      That's one. And Puerto Rico. And don't forget Quebec.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        How can the EU recognize a nation that exists solely within the boundaries of a country that is a member.

        Same way that the US does.

        example?

        Native American's, right?

        What do you think would happen if they just declared themselves sovereign and not part of the US anymore?

        If you think this comparison applies, you are confused.

        It's what if the Creek Nation declared itself not a part of Oklahoma, but wanted to stay in the US. That's the example. How do you think the US would react?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          In case you are wondering, the UN recognizes Puerto Rico as a nation.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            In case you are wondering, the UN recognizes Puerto Rico as a nation.

            what does that gain them?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              In case you are wondering, the UN recognizes Puerto Rico as a nation.

              what does that gain them?

              World recognition as a nation. What does any recognition gain you? The point is that you have a different feeling as to what a nation is than the word means or as used by the UN. Catalonia is a nation, Spain is not. Spain is a group of nations. Basque Country, Galacia, and Catalonia are three very distinct nations inside of Spain with three very distinct cultures, food, language, ethnic background, etc.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                So you're saying these large governing bodies, The EU, The UN, The USA recognize these nations - ok so? what does recognition give them? some type of protection? a seat at the negotiation table?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  So you're saying these large governing bodies, The EU, The UN, The USA recognize these nations - ok so? what does recognition give them? some type of protection? a seat at the negotiation table?

                  You were talking about thing, now you are asking about something else. I'm not sure where you are trying to take the discussion. The point was that Catalonia is a universally recognized nation.

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                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/doj-billionaire-pharma-owner-fueled-the-opioid-epidemic-with-bribery-scheme/

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                      https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/10/how-much-for-your-head-unregulated-us-brokers-make-killing-on-donated-bodies/

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        So you're saying these large governing bodies, The EU, The UN, The USA recognize these nations - ok so? what does recognition give them? some type of protection? a seat at the negotiation table?

                        You were talking about thing, now you are asking about something else. I'm not sure where you are trying to take the discussion. The point was that Catalonia is a universally recognized nation.

                        My ignorance of the situation, and complete inability to correctly articulate my questions are leading you in ways that are not intended.

                        What good does being recognized do you if those other larger organizations are unwilling to set in to aid you - and what determines when that aid is valid, especially militarily?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          What good does being recognized do you if those other larger organizations are unwilling to set in to aid you - and what determines when that aid is valid, especially militarily?

                          It doesn't do any good. The issue is that nations are rarely protected. But there is still a duty to them. A non-sovereign nation is normally a nation held subject to someone by force of military. One of the questions earlier was about them not being a nation because they were conquered, but they are just as much as nation whether they are sovereign or not.

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda
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                            Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                            I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @momurda
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                              http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                              I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                              That is not how it works in the U.S.

                              Also, the charges filed now, are only the tip of the iceberg from what I was hearing. These were filed now because of an upcoming statute of limitations deadline.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                That is not how it works in the U.S.

                                Also, the charges filed now, are only the tip of the iceberg from what I was hearing. These were filed now because of an upcoming statute of limitations deadline.

                                I believe it is based around tax evasion.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @momurda
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                                  @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                  I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                  Probably not.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                    I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                    Probably not.

                                    If at all.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @momurda
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                                      @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                      I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                      I doubt both of those. If he's really Trump's friend, he'll be out in no time, and I'm pretty sure the idiot-in-chief will continue to avoid any backlash or arrest for all his wrongdoing.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @RojoLoco
                                        last edited by coliver

                                        @rojoloco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                        http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                        I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                        I doubt both of those. If he's really Trump's friend, he'll be out in no time, and I'm pretty sure the idiot-in-chief will continue to avoid any backlash or arrest for all his wrongdoing.

                                        He pardoned someone before a court date was even set. No doubt he will pardon Manafort as well. Granted acceptance of a pardon would be an acceptance of guilt so it would be an interesting turn of events.

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                                        • momurdaM
                                          momurda
                                          last edited by

                                          I think youre all wrong. this investigation is just getting started.
                                          No way Shitstain in Chief gets out of this. And yes, his friend was charged with Conspiracy against the US, not just tax evasion.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @rojoloco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Trump's friend going to prison for a long time.
                                            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41804740
                                            I expect Trump will be arrested by the end of the year.

                                            I doubt both of those. If he's really Trump's friend, he'll be out in no time, and I'm pretty sure the idiot-in-chief will continue to avoid any backlash or arrest for all his wrongdoing.

                                            He pardoned someone before a court date was even set. No doubt he will pardon Manafort as well. Granted acceptance of a pardon would be an acceptance of guilt so it would be an interesting turn of events.

                                            He pardoned Joe Arpaio

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