How Often Is a Degree a Negative
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@Dashrender said:
If the job isn't posted as an opening... how do you find out about them? Usually it's because you've found yourself connected with a decent headhunter who knows those hiring managers and they tell you about the new opportunities.
Head hunters. I know of very few good jobs placed through ads. It's not how anyone works anymore.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
If the job isn't posted as an opening... how do you find out about them? Usually it's because you've found yourself connected with a decent headhunter who knows those hiring managers and they tell you about the new opportunities.
Head hunters. I know of very few good jobs placed through ads. It's not how anyone works anymore.
Apparently I need to start finding some good head hunters....
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Strangely, I can't get headhunters to hang out in a social community. A huge market is being missed.
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I always send hand written letters to hiring managers. Sure they might have to get HR involved. but, HR is just advise and there for the process most of the time. It's the managers final say and even if not they have a lot of pull with HR.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I always send hand written letters to hiring managers. Sure they might have to get HR involved. but, HR is just advise and there for the process most of the time. It's the managers final say and even if not they have a lot of pull with HR.
Yes, I've always had HR get involved but only at the end, just to do background checks and that sort of stuff. HR does the final offer, but the hiring manager makes the call.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
If the job isn't posted as an opening... how do you find out about them? Usually it's because you've found yourself connected with a decent headhunter who knows those hiring managers and they tell you about the new opportunities.
Head hunters. I know of very few good jobs placed through ads. It's not how anyone works anymore.
Apparently I need to start finding some good head hunters....
Ditto.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
I always send hand written letters to hiring managers. Sure they might have to get HR involved. but, HR is just advise and there for the process most of the time. It's the managers final say and even if not they have a lot of pull with HR.
Yes, I've always had HR get involved but only at the end, just to do background checks and that sort of stuff. HR does the final offer, but the hiring manager makes the call.
A huge local tech company, West Corporation, is just stuck in the dark ages. They don't use head hunters - who wants to pay the 25% fee of the total compensation package to someone because you found me a body, and before you respond.. yes I know the benefits of head hunters... start another topic if you'd like
- HR controls who is and isn't hired. Short of a VP getting involved.. if the job description says degree required.. it's required, no matter what! -
@Dashrender said:
A huge local tech company, West Corporation, is just stuck in the dark ages. They don't use head hunters - who wants to pay the 25% fee of the total compensation package to someone because you found me a body, and before you respond.. yes I know the benefits of head hunters... start another topic if you'd like
- HR controls who is and isn't hired. Short of a VP getting involved.. if the job description says degree required.. it's required, no matter what!Never heard of them. How big are they? HR might control things there, but that's rare and how you kow a company isn't a good one to work for.
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Well obviously not that big as they aren't part of the Fortune 100. They are 787 in the Fortune 1000.
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@Dashrender said:
Well obviously not that big as they aren't part of the Fortune 100. They are 787 in the Fortune 1000.
Very "high tech" company...
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They have never had a great web presence. I remember about 20 years ago they had their page defaced within 2 days of going live on. It was pretty funny.
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@scottalanmiller You just don't have flash installed.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller You just don't have flash installed.
That's his point. No high tech company should be using Flash on their homepage anymore.
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@Dashrender Plenty do.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller You just don't have flash installed.
Of course not, what decade is it? I'm on a web site, not an arbitrary app site.
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@Dashrender said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller You just don't have flash installed.
That's his point. No high tech company should be using Flash on their homepage anymore.
Or, you know, ever. It was considered unprofessional and embarrassing in 2002!! I remember it being discussed in web companies in 2000 and avoided because only crappy companies with no clue did that.
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No degree here, seem to be doing ok.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller You just don't have flash installed.
Who the hell still makes new sites with flash? There's almost nothing that can be done in flash now that can't be done in JS+HTML5 with less effort.
