Adobe Acrobat 7 Pro: CD / Download
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@scottalanmiller said:
If TechSoup doesn't, I don't think that anyone will for Microsoft products. In what way are you "over the line" for a non-profit?
Two factors - I needed 14 copies, limited to only 4 per year. Also budget requirement.
- Only organizations with annual budgets of US $10,000,000 or less are eligible to receive this Adobe donation.
I didn't think our NPO was that larger!
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$10m really is not all that large. Sounds large but that's when you are thinking in terms of a paycheck, not a corporation operational budget.
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Sounds like you are just past the point of being able to get cheap Adobe software. Might be time to consider alternatives or face ponying up the dough.
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A couple of good alternatives would be CutePDF and Foxit Reader. Foxit Reader actually has a pretty nice suite, but I have no clue what their pricing is like. CutePDF is also a great option.
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Thanks @ajstringham - However the big item of interest is in post PDF creation and not just viewing.
Need to be able to create / edit / move / Add too existing PDFs. Since we are a NPO, we could have a grant document that is upwards of 600 pages long, but need to have some pages moved within the document.
NTM all the security aspects and what not.
I do use cutePDF and FOXIT,.. but they need more.
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@g.jacobse said:
Thanks @ajstringham - However the big item of interest is in post PDF creation and not just viewing.
Need to be able to create / edit / move / Add too existing PDFs. Since we are a NPO, we could have a grant document that is upwards of 600 pages long, but need to have some pages moved within the document.
NTM all the security aspects and what not.
I do use cutePDF and FOXIT,.. but they need more.
You know there are professional versions that include the features you want, no?
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Do you really need to edit PDFs? What causes that? People send you PDFs that you need to edit? That's odd. Why don't they use a document editing format instead?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Do you really need to edit PDFs? What causes that? People send you PDFs that you need to edit? That's odd. Why don't they use a document editing format instead?
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
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@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
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@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
As I said, I know Foxit has a similar suite to Adobe but I don't have any real personal experience with it. Adobe is the business standard, and Acrobat Standard is fine for most people.
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@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
Moving off of PDF fixes this completely. That is always an option. PDF is not a format designed to be edited. Word, for example, is a better tool for editing files.
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@StrongBad said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
Moving off of PDF fixes this completely. That is always an option. PDF is not a format designed to be edited. Word, for example, is a better tool for editing files.
If you have a document that legitimately needs to be edited repeatedly, PDF is not a good choice. Leave it as a DOC or DOCX. PDFs are forms. But as it's been said, creating fillable PDFs for clients, etc is often what people need Acrobat for.
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@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
As I said, I know Foxit has a similar suite to Adobe but I don't have any real personal experience with it. Adobe is the business standard, and Acrobat Standard is fine for most people.
Actually I meant changing the way people use software, not the software it's self. You don't need a F450 to do the work of a Ford Ranger. Hell sometimes a car makes more sense than a freaking truck. Might be bad analogies, but you should understand what I am trying to say.
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@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
As I said, I know Foxit has a similar suite to Adobe but I don't have any real personal experience with it. Adobe is the business standard, and Acrobat Standard is fine for most people.
Actually I meant changing the way people use software, not the software it's self. You don't need a F450 to do the work of a Ford Ranger. Hell sometimes a car makes more sense than a freaking truck. Might be bad analogies, but you should understand what I am trying to say.
Not sure what you mean by changing the way people use software. How would you change this?
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@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
As I said, I know Foxit has a similar suite to Adobe but I don't have any real personal experience with it. Adobe is the business standard, and Acrobat Standard is fine for most people.
Actually I meant changing the way people use software, not the software it's self. You don't need a F450 to do the work of a Ford Ranger. Hell sometimes a car makes more sense than a freaking truck. Might be bad analogies, but you should understand what I am trying to say.
Not sure what you mean by changing the way people use software. How would you change this?
Crap...I meant changing what they use for software...Not everything has to be made in Acrobat!
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@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@technobabble said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
It's often more editing internal documents that are in PDF format but not available in DOC, DOCX, etc.
Why would internal documents not have the originals? Sounds like spending money to fix a basic workflow problem.
It happens. I see it all the time. Also, Acrobat lets you fill in PDFs and create fillable forms with Acrobat and LiveCycle Designer. That's the biggest thing most people mean by "editing" PDFs.
Is there another choice for this? I too see this a lot.
As I said, I know Foxit has a similar suite to Adobe but I don't have any real personal experience with it. Adobe is the business standard, and Acrobat Standard is fine for most people.
Actually I meant changing the way people use software, not the software it's self. You don't need a F450 to do the work of a Ford Ranger. Hell sometimes a car makes more sense than a freaking truck. Might be bad analogies, but you should understand what I am trying to say.
Not sure what you mean by changing the way people use software. How would you change this?
Crap...I meant changing what they use for software...Not everything has to be made in Acrobat!
I agree. However, the time and hassle to re-train users has to be weighed against the cost of continuing to use whatever. I'd bet it's probably still cheaper to stick to Acrobat.
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@technobabble said:
Crap...I meant changing what they use for software...Not everything has to be made in Acrobat!
That was what I was saying. MS Word or even LibreOffice will do this better. They probably already have word and are just opening the wrong application because they are given it, so why not?
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@ajstringham said:
I agree. However, the time and hassle to re-train users has to be weighed against the cost of continuing to use whatever. I'd bet it's probably still cheaper to stick to Acrobat.
Few people know how to use Acrobat and not Word. And retraining is a one time expense, using the wrong software requires constant bad training and extra cost for forever.
