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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      So we have a number of Windows Server 2022 machines in the fleet. And all seem to be unstable, they power down regularly with nothing in the logs, no expired Activations, nothing in the hypervisor logs... nada. It's like the power is just lost.

      These are super vanilla machines. Extra software is pretty much limited to 7zip, MeshCentral, etc. Things we have deployed on thousands of machines. The machines with issues don't run the same workloads, some are ASP.NET apps on IIS, others are purely SQL Server Reporting Services. So very different applications.

      We are getting suspicious that Edge is causing the issue. These are the first servers where we didn't immediately replace the MS browser as the default browser and most crashes are only while the browser is in use.

      We've switched some machines to Chrome for testing and it is early, but so far, the crashes have stopped. Has anyone been running Windows 2022? If so, what the heck are we seeing?

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller I haven't seen this. We have so many Servers 2022 and none have had this issue. Anything on the event logs? Something must be written on them.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dbeato
          last edited by

          @dbeato said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

          @scottalanmiller I haven't seen this. We have so many Servers 2022 and none have had this issue. Anything on the event logs? Something must be written on them.

          Absolutely nothing. The logs just end when it turns off. It's literally as if someone pulled the power out.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

            @dbeato said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

            @scottalanmiller I haven't seen this. We have so many Servers 2022 and none have had this issue. Anything on the event logs? Something must be written on them.

            Absolutely nothing. The logs just end when it turns off. It's literally as if someone pulled the power out.

            Are they BSODing? are they set to auto recover? perhaps turn that off and look at the console when it happens to see if there is a report on the BSOD...

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco
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              Just chiming in to keep track of this. We have yet to deploy Server 2022, but we have some new stuff on the way that might have 2022 licenses.

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              • V
                VoIP_n00b
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                What’s the hypervisor?

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                • V
                  VoIP_n00b
                  last edited by

                  https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/windows-server-2022-crashing-randomly.109823/

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @VoIP_n00b
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                    @VoIP_n00b said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                    What’s the hypervisor?

                    ProxMox / KVM

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @VoIP_n00b
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                      @VoIP_n00b said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                      https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/windows-server-2022-crashing-randomly.109823/

                      Hmmm... no real answers there. And someone reported it on non-ProxMox, too. Which suggests it's just Windows Server 2022 being unstable.

                      So far since removing Edge as the default browser, it hasn't done it. But "not doing it yet" isn't much proof of anything.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        It's been a few days without Edge, but the power off event happened again anyway 😞

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                          @VoIP_n00b said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                          https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/windows-server-2022-crashing-randomly.109823/

                          Hmmm... no real answers there. And someone reported it on non-ProxMox, too. Which suggests it's just Windows Server 2022 being unstable.

                          So far since removing Edge as the default browser, it hasn't done it. But "not doing it yet" isn't much proof of anything.

                          Do you have any of the log information like they have in that thread?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                            @VoIP_n00b said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                            https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/windows-server-2022-crashing-randomly.109823/

                            Hmmm... no real answers there. And someone reported it on non-ProxMox, too. Which suggests it's just Windows Server 2022 being unstable.

                            So far since removing Edge as the default browser, it hasn't done it. But "not doing it yet" isn't much proof of anything.

                            Do you have any of the log information like they have in that thread?

                            Yes, it points to this...

                            https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832986

                            But the CPU is Haswell.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: If you're running a guest on an Intel machine without unrestricted mode
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: support, the failure can be most likely due to the guest entering an invalid
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: state for Intel VT. For example, the guest maybe running in big real mode
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: which is not supported on less recent Intel processors.
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: EAX=c6d3f428 EBX=042da075 ECX=ef86ad60 EDX=ef9f3000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: ESI=45d01090 EDI=003e4510 EBP=eb3bfca0 ESP=44591fb0
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: EIP=00008000 EFL=00000002 [-------] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=1 HLT=0
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: ES =0000 00000000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: CS =c200 7ffc2000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: SS =0000 00000000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: DS =0000 00000000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: FS =0000 00000000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: GS =0000 00000000 ffffffff 00809300
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: LDT=0000 00000000 000fffff 00000000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: TR =0040 44578000 00000067 00008b00
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: GDT=     44579fb0 00000057
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: IDT=     00000000 00000000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 kernel: [820087.940851] set kvm_intel.dump_invalid_vmcs=1 to dump internal KVM state.
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: CR0=00050032 CR2=7fdbd008 CR3=43132000 CR4=00000000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: DR0=0000000000000000 DR1=0000000000000000 DR2=0000000000000000 DR3=0000000000000000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: DR6=00000000ffff0ff0 DR7=0000000000000400
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: EFER=0000000000000000
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 QEMU[3874067]: Code=kvm: ../hw/core/cpu-sysemu.c:77: cpu_asidx_from_attrs: Assertion `ret < cpu->num_ases && ret >= 0' failed.
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 kernel: [820087.965962] fwbr103i0: port 2(tap103i0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:46 vmhost1 kernel: [820087.966340] fwbr103i0: port 2(tap103i0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:47 vmhost1 systemd[1]: 103.scope: Succeeded.
Jun 16 03:04:47 vmhost1 systemd[1]: 103.scope: Consumed 1d 16h 5min 37.551s CPU time.
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 qmeventd[1217519]: Starting cleanup for 103
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.088391] fwbr103i0: port 1(fwln103i0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.088483] vmbr0: port 5(fwpr103p0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.088937] device fwln103i0 left promiscuous mode
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.088943] fwbr103i0: port 1(fwln103i0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.120903] device fwpr103p0 left promiscuous mode
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 kernel: [820089.120909] vmbr0: port 5(fwpr103p0) entered disabled state
Jun 16 03:04:48 vmhost1 qmeventd[1217519]: Finished cleanup for 103
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                              • DanpD
                                Danp @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                                KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021

                                Assume that you've read this thread.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Danp
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                                  @Danp said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                                  KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021

                                  Assume that you've read this thread.

                                  Yeah. Lots of "try this" in there. Nothing definitive. We are testing disabling nesting right now. But it requires a reboot and we are in production.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Tested the fix of changing nesting to disable. So far, so good. But it'll take time to know.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2022 and Suspect Edge Instability:

                                      Tested the fix of changing nesting to disable. So far, so good. But it'll take time to know.

                                      Another day, no crashes. So far this fix is working and is really easy.

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