Hosted DNS questions



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I had looked into Hurricane Electric and DNSMadeEasy, but Cloudflare seems to have a bit higher adoption and a broader feature set.

    Didn't level of player in the game.

    CloudFlare is the absolutely biggest dog in the game, the number one enterprise DNS/CDN player. The others aren't small, but the gap between top dog and small time players there is pretty big. CloudFlare is in competition with Amazon, not those guys.

    Out of curiosity, where does Google Cloud DNS fit in?

    I personally don't trust Google with any business function, not that they are a bad company, but they randomly dump products that they claim to be the hottest new thing so quickly and often that I don't even let them enter my mind as a company to do business with. I'm sure their cloud products are fast and reasonably priced, but they famously lack business support and it's just not a vendor I'd want to waste my time with as I'm only confident that any product that they offer will suddenly vanish. I was stuck once using G Suite and it was a train wreck of support and killed off features.

    I'm sure it's good. But that's why I have no knowledge of it. Google doesn't have what it takes to play in the Amazon space, IMHO. They have to be worlds better than Azure, but that's not a ringing endorsement. They fall into that space of "probably pretty decent, but not quite good enough for me to care."

    Pretty much, I know of no reason that I'd look beyond CloudFlare and Amazon. They offer the enterprise free option, and the high end paid options. They offer the best in class services. There's really no one else to seriously consider unless there is some unique feature that you can get elsewhere that they don't have.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I had looked into Hurricane Electric and DNSMadeEasy, but Cloudflare seems to have a bit higher adoption and a broader feature set.

    Didn't level of player in the game.

    CloudFlare is the absolutely biggest dog in the game, the number one enterprise DNS/CDN player. The others aren't small, but the gap between top dog and small time players there is pretty big. CloudFlare is in competition with Amazon, not those guys.

    Out of curiosity, where does Google Cloud DNS fit in?

    I personally don't trust Google with any business function, not that they are a bad company, but they randomly dump products that they claim to be the hottest new thing so quickly and often that I don't even let them enter my mind as a company to do business with. I'm sure their cloud products are fast and reasonably priced, but they famously lack business support and it's just not a vendor I'd want to waste my time with as I'm only confident that any product that they offer will suddenly vanish. I was stuck once using G Suite and it was a train wreck of support and killed off features.

    I'm sure it's good. But that's why I have no knowledge of it. Google doesn't have what it takes to play in the Amazon space, IMHO. They have to be worlds better than Azure, but that's not a ringing endorsement. They fall into that space of "probably pretty decent, but not quite good enough for me to care."

    Pretty much, I know of no reason that I'd look beyond CloudFlare and Amazon. They offer the enterprise free option, and the high end paid options. They offer the best in class services. There's really no one else to seriously consider unless there is some unique feature that you can get elsewhere that they don't have.

    Thx for the insight



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I had looked into Hurricane Electric and DNSMadeEasy, but Cloudflare seems to have a bit higher adoption and a broader feature set.

    Didn't level of player in the game.

    CloudFlare is the absolutely biggest dog in the game, the number one enterprise DNS/CDN player. The others aren't small, but the gap between top dog and small time players there is pretty big. CloudFlare is in competition with Amazon, not those guys.

    Out of curiosity, where does Google Cloud DNS fit in?

    I personally don't trust Google with any business function, not that they are a bad company, but they randomly dump products that they claim to be the hottest new thing so quickly and often that I don't even let them enter my mind as a company to do business with. I'm sure their cloud products are fast and reasonably priced, but they famously lack business support and it's just not a vendor I'd want to waste my time with as I'm only confident that any product that they offer will suddenly vanish. I was stuck once using G Suite and it was a train wreck of support and killed off features.

    I'm sure it's good. But that's why I have no knowledge of it. Google doesn't have what it takes to play in the Amazon space, IMHO. They have to be worlds better than Azure, but that's not a ringing endorsement. They fall into that space of "probably pretty decent, but not quite good enough for me to care."

    Pretty much, I know of no reason that I'd look beyond CloudFlare and Amazon. They offer the enterprise free option, and the high end paid options. They offer the best in class services. There's really no one else to seriously consider unless there is some unique feature that you can get elsewhere that they don't have.

    Thx for the insight

    I'm sure Google is fine 🙂 It's hard to state why I avoid them without it sounding dramatic. It's not. It's minor. But given that CloudFlare is free, I just never find a time not to use them. They are so good.



  • cloudns.net is good too



  • Just set registrar to use Cloudflare.

    Thanks everyone



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    Just set registrar to use Cloudflare.

    Thanks everyone

    It's free, if nothing else, try it first 🙂



  • I assume everyone is using the "proxy" feature of Cloudflare?

    When using it, and setting CF to force SSL, do I need to do anything at my webhost with the SSL cert I already have with them? I notice that now, when proxied, the site shows the CF cert.



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I assume everyone is using the "proxy" feature of Cloudflare?

    Often, but not always. It's an amazing feature, but there are many times when you don't want it or can't use it. It's really perfect for the majority of things like standard websites. But like addresses used for email or some other function often can't be proxied.



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    When using it, and setting CF to force SSL, do I need to do anything at my webhost with the SSL cert I already have with them? I notice that now, when proxied, the site shows the CF cert.

    CF is a proxy, so it has separate SSL certs and settings from your server. You can skip SSL altogether on your server and CF will serve out SSL for you just fine. Or you can self sign. Or use a formal LetsEncrypt or whatever. This will change your "strict" style options with CloudFlare, but in all cases you can use CF's SSL when proxied whether the site has its own SSL or not.



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I assume everyone is using the "proxy" feature of Cloudflare?

    When using it, and setting CF to force SSL, do I need to do anything at my webhost with the SSL cert I already have with them? I notice that now, when proxied, the site shows the CF cert.

    The end users will see the CF cert all the time.

    What your local cert protects is the communication between CF and your server. CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.



  • @travisdh1 said in Hosted DNS questions:

    CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.

    They are free.



  • @travisdh1 said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    I assume everyone is using the "proxy" feature of Cloudflare?

    When using it, and setting CF to force SSL, do I need to do anything at my webhost with the SSL cert I already have with them? I notice that now, when proxied, the site shows the CF cert.

    The end users will see the CF cert all the time.

    What your local cert protects is the communication between CF and your server. CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.

    Good to know

    Thanks



  • @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @travisdh1 said in Hosted DNS questions:

    CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.

    They are free.

    And I have a guide on here on how to use one



  • @JaredBusch said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @travisdh1 said in Hosted DNS questions:

    CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.

    They are free.

    And I have a guide on here on how to use one

    Sweet.....I'll go look for it. Thanks



  • @wscsuperfan said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @JaredBusch said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @scottalanmiller said in Hosted DNS questions:

    @travisdh1 said in Hosted DNS questions:

    CF also have certs available to encrypt the traffic between your server and CF, I think they're even free.

    They are free.

    And I have a guide on here on how to use one

    Sweet.....I'll go look for it. Thanks

    https://www.mangolassi.it/tags/origin certificate


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