Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour
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@flaxking said in Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour:
People have been taught to fear changing jobs, and all humans are naturally averse to change even when it is good for us. This is one of those cases where the increase rate of change feels scary, but actually makes us safer. It's not unlikely flying vs. driving. Driving feels safer, but flying with the pilot in control is actually safer.
Basically the same argument as for CI/CD. Painful experiences cause the reaction of people pushing to do it less and implement things to make it harder for people to do, when the solution is actually doing it more.
Odd example, but yeah, exactly
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@flaxking said in Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour:
does no R2F only empower bad employees?
Yes, much like unions. Unions and Anti-R2F are very related. Not the same, so don't want to over generalize, but they share a lot of trends and traits. And both work from a "useful in really niche circumstances, mostly from long ago" but "generally only serve to stop worthless employees from being replaced by good ones today" position.
If you think about it, if you need to hire staff, but can't fire bad workers, that's just another way of saying you are blocking the hiring of good workers. R2F is what protects good workers so that they can replace bad ones. Anti-R2F is so that bad workers can hold on to positions even when someone better wants to work there.
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@flaxking said in Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour:
With labour law fines being a slap on the wrist, and reporting essentially being quitting or being fired, (and suing being challenging in Canada) pretty much the only way I have power is by being a bad enough employee just to ride the waves for a while, and if I get fired I can at least claim unemployment.
Canada is one of the strongest Anti-R2F countries and one of the worst working markets in the world. Don't get me wrong, I love Canada. But it's at the very top of my "won't work there" lists and, more important, it's the absolute top of our "will never hire there" list.
My company does work in Canada. But every, single person who works there in person is flown in from the US because hiring Canadians is out of the question. And almost all of the work is done remotely from Latin America. So the Anti-R2F movement in Canada is literally a key factor in Canadian jobs being shipped out of Canada. It makes it essentially impossible to even consider using a Canadian for anything. But doing the work from outside the country is trivial.
It's not just something you can work around, it's so dramatic that we consider Canadians to simply not exist as potential workers and everyone else is able to just work there. So it's not a work around, it's just how work is done. It would never occur to us to consider local labour up north. Nor is there any need as cheaper, more abundant, R2F labour is already on hand from everywhere else.
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@IRJ said in Why Right to Fire (and Hire) May Be in the Employee's Favour:
Why is most of the world against R2F? It seems like Europe, Middle East, and Asia all have laws against it? Not sure about the Americas outside of the US.
A lot of the world are still driven by lots of low paid task worker jobs that are relatively speaking easy to replace.
