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      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

      @scotth said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

      We got a quote for $800 / mo. for 3,000 FAXes / mo. -- approx 9,000 pages / mo. A few POTS lines and an Intermec Multitech FAX server paid for that rather quickly.
      Sorry folks, but there are industries that will FAX no matter the opinion of others.

      Not a horrible price, but supposedly way, way higher than the voip.ms price. Which is like $200-$270 supposedly.

      There's a huge difference here though Scott - with the VOIP.ms solution, YOU have to provide the ATA, the fax modem, the local storage, etc.

      With those online solutions, you just have, heck - your phone.

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        Dashrender @jt1001001
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        @jt1001001 said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

        We looked at e faxing solutions but it was not cost effective as we only pay I think $45/month for the line and LD and we fax close to 200 pages/month in some cases. Going to revisit one our fax needs reduce.

        Aww.. I missed that this was per month... the number was so low I just assumed it was a day.

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          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

          @Dashrender said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

          We looked at e faxing solutions but it was not cost effective as we only pay I think $45/month for the line and LD and we fax close to 200 pages/month in some cases. Going to revisit one our fax needs reduce.

          200? lol, and efaxing wasn't cost effective - try 700, efaxing was going to cost us like $1400/m compared to $60 for two POTS lines.... crazy.

          You said 700 pages a month before.

          yeah - you seeing that would make 700/m for $1400 would be insanely expensive...

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            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

            @jt1001001 said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

            We looked at e faxing solutions but it was not cost effective as we only pay I think $45/month for the line and LD and we fax close to 200 pages/month in some cases. Going to revisit one our fax needs reduce.

            Aww.. I missed that this was per month... the number was so low I just assumed it was a day.

            200 is way more likely to be a monthly figure, even for a decent sized company. For us 200 is like a "corporate lifetime" number, and it all happened in 1999-2001. LOL

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              syko24 @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

              @scottalanmiller said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

              @scotth said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

              We got a quote for $800 / mo. for 3,000 FAXes / mo. -- approx 9,000 pages / mo. A few POTS lines and an Intermec Multitech FAX server paid for that rather quickly.
              Sorry folks, but there are industries that will FAX no matter the opinion of others.

              Not a horrible price, but supposedly way, way higher than the voip.ms price. Which is like $200-$270 supposedly.

              There's a huge difference here though Scott - with the VOIP.ms solution, YOU have to provide the ATA, the fax modem, the local storage, etc.

              With those online solutions, you just have, heck - your phone.

              I've played around with using a voice line from VOIP.MS for sending faxes as they advertise support for t38. It is very hit or miss though whether faxes successfully send or not. I sometimes get the feeling that it depends on who the receiving provider is. If I send to a Comcast phone line it seems to typically go through. If I send to an AT&T line it seems to error out near the end of the fax.

              VOIP.MS recently started advertising FoIP but it still requires having a virtualfax number as well as a voiceline.

              Scroll all the way to the bottom
              https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Virtual_Fax

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                Dashrender @syko24
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                @syko24 said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                @Dashrender said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                @scottalanmiller said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                @scotth said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                We got a quote for $800 / mo. for 3,000 FAXes / mo. -- approx 9,000 pages / mo. A few POTS lines and an Intermec Multitech FAX server paid for that rather quickly.
                Sorry folks, but there are industries that will FAX no matter the opinion of others.

                Not a horrible price, but supposedly way, way higher than the voip.ms price. Which is like $200-$270 supposedly.

                There's a huge difference here though Scott - with the VOIP.ms solution, YOU have to provide the ATA, the fax modem, the local storage, etc.

                With those online solutions, you just have, heck - your phone.

                I've played around with using a voice line from VOIP.MS for sending faxes as they advertise support for t38. It is very hit or miss though whether faxes successfully send or not. I sometimes get the feeling that it depends on who the receiving provider is. If I send to a Comcast phone line it seems to typically go through. If I send to an AT&T line it seems to error out near the end of the fax.

                VOIP.MS recently started advertising FoIP but it still requires having a virtualfax number as well as a voiceline.

                Scroll all the way to the bottom
                https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Virtual_Fax

                Interesting - I deployed this for a customer with a grandstream ATA about 6 months ago, and they have had no complaints.

                That said - There are posts around ML where my "phone provider" Cox - which only deals in SIP trunks - was having major issues because of line noise being injected into their cable system upstream from my location. Clear the noise, the problem goes away.

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                  scottalanmiller @syko24
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                  @syko24 said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                  VOIP.MS recently started advertising FoIP but it still requires having a virtualfax number as well as a voiceline.

                  Yeah, that's what I'm pricing out.

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                    scotth @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                    @scotth said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                    We got a quote for $800 / mo. for 3,000 FAXes / mo. -- approx 9,000 pages / mo. A few POTS lines and an Intermec Multitech FAX server paid for that rather quickly.
                    Sorry folks, but there are industries that will FAX no matter the opinion of others.

                    Not a horrible price, but supposedly way, way higher than the voip.ms price. Which is like $200-$270 supposedly.

                    Honestly, handing it off to a service doesn't bother me. If the price were under twice our costs, I could state a case for it. Beside the petroleum industry being still hard after FAXs, dealing with the government is still done with FAX..... a lot of FAXs.

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                      jt1001001 @scotth
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                      @scotth 60% of our faxes are government; rest are a mix of healthcare and oddball companies who don't take PO's in email.

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                        scotth
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                        @jt1001001 We're close to 50/50 government/customer across all of our bulk plants. Interoffice we attempt to scan to a folder. I can't tell you how many times I saw someone print our a message and then FAX it. It sets my blood to boiling. If I mention that there's another, better, easier, more efficient, pleasing, justified way to do it, I get the 'that's nice, I'll do that next time' look. The owner has been pushing for better behavior. He seems to be getting good results. Hehe

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                          Dashrender @scotth
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                          @scotth said in Any way to pass through pci fax modem in hyper-v:

                          @jt1001001 We're close to 50/50 government/customer across all of our bulk plants. Interoffice we attempt to scan to a folder. I can't tell you how many times I saw someone print our a message and then FAX it. It sets my blood to boiling. If I mention that there's another, better, easier, more efficient, pleasing, justified way to do it, I get the 'that's nice, I'll do that next time' look. The owner has been pushing for better behavior. He seems to be getting good results. Hehe

                          yeah - only way to push this through is to make faxing super painful - remove all fax lines - place last remaining fax machine with an active line in your office behind a locked door (or where ever they can't access with you or your designee)... they will change quickly at that point.

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