HCI vendors: software or hardware
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@scottalanmiller said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@taurex said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
DataCore's Hyper-Converged VSAN. Apparently quite reasonably-priced but I haven't heard much else about it.
Took a quick look, I don't like that it's a 100% Windows even in its VMware flavor!
Not sure what you mean.
Datacore vSAN in VMware ESXi is 2x Windows Server 201x vm's (not 2 Linux vm's)
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@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@scottalanmiller said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@taurex said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
DataCore's Hyper-Converged VSAN. Apparently quite reasonably-priced but I haven't heard much else about it.
Took a quick look, I don't like that it's a 100% Windows even in its VMware flavor!
Not sure what you mean.
Datacore vSAN in VMware ESXi is 2x Windows Server 201x vm's (not 2 Linux vm's)
I see, it's not an appliance but you deploy Windows then install it?
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@scottalanmiller said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@scottalanmiller said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@taurex said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
DataCore's Hyper-Converged VSAN. Apparently quite reasonably-priced but I haven't heard much else about it.
Took a quick look, I don't like that it's a 100% Windows even in its VMware flavor!
Not sure what you mean.
Datacore vSAN in VMware ESXi is 2x Windows Server 201x vm's (not 2 Linux vm's)
I see, it's not an appliance but you deploy Windows then install it?
They actually have a PS script that automates the deployment of both Windows Server vms.
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Looking at the Starwind vSAN for vsphere notes: https://www.starwindsoftware.com/resource-library/starwind-virtual-san-for-vsphere
You still need Windows to help "manage" the vsphere install...why?
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@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Looking at the Starwind vSAN for vsphere notes: https://www.starwindsoftware.com/resource-library/starwind-virtual-san-for-vsphere
You still need Windows to help "manage" the vsphere install...why?
Because the VSAN software is built to use Windows and Powershell to manage the supplied storage.
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@DustinB3403 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Because the VSAN software is built to use Windows and Powershell to manage the supplied storage.
Starwind vSAN for vSphere is 100% Linux?
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@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@DustinB3403 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Because the VSAN software is built to use Windows and Powershell to manage the supplied storage.
Starwind vSAN for vSphere is 100% Linux?
I'm pretty positive it requires a windows guest to be supplied the storage, which then gets passed out to the hypervisor.
I would have to double check, but that rings a bell.
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@DustinB3403
from https://www.vladan.fr/starwind-vsan-for-vsphere-new-release/
StarWind Virtual SAN for vSphere -is a VMware-only Software-Defined-Storage stack. A ready-to-go Linux VM installs on the cluster nodes to share their storage resources.
Once installed, Virtual SAN creates a fault-tolerant storage pool available to the entire vSphere cluster. VSAN users get limitless virtualization capabilities in terms of features, storage capacity, and cost-efficiency. Enterprise-level functionality and performance are available in the infrastructure of your choice. -
@DustinB3403
Looks like you can use Cockpit to do some stuff but you still need the Starwind Management Console (which is Windows) -
@DustinB3403 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
I'm pretty positive it requires a windows guest to be supplied the storage, which then gets passed out to the hypervisor.
It used to be Windows based.
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@scottalanmiller said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@DustinB3403 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
I'm pretty positive it requires a windows guest to be supplied the storage, which then gets passed out to the hypervisor.
It used to be Windows based.
Correct, but you still need Windows to manage the Linux version...which makes no sense to me.
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@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Correct, but you still need Windows to manage the Linux version...which makes no sense to me.
I reached out to Starwind & stand corrected.
Windows is not needed to manage Starwind VSAN for vSphere & KVM (upcoming, still in beta) -
Does Nutanix count?
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@notverypunny said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Does Nutanix count?
hahah, yes but no one would ever consider them because of aforementions @scottalanmiller Nutanix rants.
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@notverypunny said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Does Nutanix count?
Nutanix at 3 nodes is 6 figures. So it does not count.
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@FATeknollogee said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
@notverypunny said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Does Nutanix count?
Nutanix at 3 nodes is 6 figures. So it does not count.
And doesn't compete with anyone else at the same physical size. You need so much more to do the same workloads.
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Slightly off the topic but related to HCI
Would people consider having a cluster at site 1 then another cluster (maybe smaller) at site 2 adequate for DR?
As to me that's like having a off-site server for backup?Or would you still look at another layer of backup/DR
We are looking at a hardware refresh and HCI is winning thank god
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@hobbit666 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Would people consider having a cluster at site 1 then another cluster (maybe smaller) at site 2 adequate for DR?
That is super common.
Doing that setup with a Scale cluster currently, in fact.
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@hobbit666 said in HCI vendors: software or hardware:
Or would you still look at another layer of backup/DR
A DR site is not the same as a backup. Generally those things are different.
