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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      That's why Best Practices must be so few and far between, there are so rarely things that have no acceptable alternatives. Since a best practice must be accepted to be superior to all alternatives, then you never have to question it, as any alternative is inferior.

      But in something like one DC or two, there can be no best practice, because both options are perfectly acceptable under different scenarios. Sometimes one DC is just fine, sometimes you need two (or more.) If one or the other was a best practice, then the other would be never the right option.

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      • pmonchoP
        pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

        @brrabill said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

        Just think of what a different discussion this would be if MS just allowed you to spin up a free AD server, that just had AD, like Hyper-V Server.

        Just imagine if a free AD server existed out there!

        Oh wait...

        I'm guessing you mean Samba? Or am I missing something?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
          last edited by

          @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

          @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

          @brrabill said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

          Just think of what a different discussion this would be if MS just allowed you to spin up a free AD server, that just had AD, like Hyper-V Server.

          Just imagine if a free AD server existed out there!

          Oh wait...

          I'm guessing you mean Samba? Or am I missing something?

          Yes, Samba will do AD for free. And is available on many platforms.

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          • CloudKnightC
            CloudKnight
            last edited by

            I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
              last edited by

              @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

              I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

              Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

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              • pmonchoP
                pmoncho @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

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                • CloudKnightC
                  CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Very true, nothing wrong at all in using. believe there was some improvements to DFS-R in higher Forrest levels, but if your obviously using Samba in your environment you probably would not be using this role anyway.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @pmoncho
                    last edited by

                    @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                    @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                    I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                    Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                    If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                    https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                    Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                      last edited by

                      @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                      @scottalanmiller Very true, nothing wrong at all in using. believe there was some improvements to DFS-R in higher Forrest levels, but if your obviously using Samba in your environment you probably would not be using this role anyway.

                      Right, generally not.

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                      • RomoR
                        Romo @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                        Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                        If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                        https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                        Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                        Even newer versions =).

                        Centos 7.5 is using 4.7.1
                        Fedora 28 is using 4.8.5

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                        • pmonchoP
                          pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                          Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                          If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                          https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                          Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                          smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Romo
                            last edited by

                            @romo said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                            Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                            If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                            https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                            Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                            Even newer versions =).

                            Centos 7.5 is using 4.7.1
                            Fedora 28 is using 4.8.5

                            Oh wow, nevermind, lol.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @pmoncho
                              last edited by

                              @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                              @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                              @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                              I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                              Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                              If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                              https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                              Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                              smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

                              Is that for 18.04 or 18.10, the latter released a few days ago (I need to go update some systems.)

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                              • CloudKnightC
                                CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
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                                0_1539971107331_samba.png

                                yep, using 18.04.1 here...

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  So likely a bit newer now.

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                                  • pmonchoP
                                    pmoncho @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                    I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                    Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                                    If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                                    https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                                    Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                                    smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

                                    Is that for 18.04 or 18.10, the latter released a few days ago (I need to go update some systems.)

                                    My bad, it is 18.04.1

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I hadn't even realized it was out. I suppose I was out of town when it happened. But I feel like there was a lack of fanfare going on. I had heard of ElementaryOS going to 5.0 without hearing that Ubuntu 18.10 was out!

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @CloudKnight
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                                        @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                        I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                        If you're not using Windows AD, what's it matter?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @obsolesce said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                          @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                          I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                          If you're not using Windows AD, what's it matter?

                                          If he's merging in DFS, it might. It's rare to do, but could matter.

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                                          • CloudKnightC
                                            CloudKnight
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                                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2008-R2-and-2008/cc754918(v=ws.10)

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