WSUS Help
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@mattspeller said in WSUS Help:
WSUS is a pain in the ass
I agree. Without derailing the off-topic to far, I'm wondering what do others use as an alternative? PDQ Deploy?
The only real alternative is to use WSUS to stop updates completely, using it only to see which updates to deploy manually via SaltStack.
But really, WSUS is working fine, it's no more of a pain than doing it any other way.
If you don't update, you risk security issues, if you do update, you risk breaking shit... but I think MS is working on it. We'll see.
Edit: WSUS isn't too bad if you set it to only download updates you approve, and clean up updates that are no longer needed. Speed wise, there's a script to speed up the database.
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@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
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@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
There's no need to... what could they possibly do to make it any better?
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Well, the mmc crashes constantly. The updates dont install when you tell them too, computers dont follow the dont restart time windows. iisreset is required once a week to to even get mmc to populate data. Issues like that for a decade theyve done nothing about.
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Well, the mmc crashes constantly. The updates dont install when you tell them too, computers dont follow the dont restart time windows. iisreset is required once a week to to even get mmc to populate data. Issues like that for a decade theyve done nothing about.
I don't have any of those issues, and I've been using WSUS a lot for a long time.
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WSUS is a pile of shit. It will be nice when Microsoft introduces its monthly maintenance plan.
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@obsolesce said in WSUS Help:
@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
There's no need to... what could they possibly do to make it any better?
I really hope you are joking....
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
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@obsolesce said in WSUS Help:
@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
There's no need to... what could they possibly do to make it any better?
Make it efficient, reliable, easy to use, or just make it unnecessary like Linux does.
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
Actually it being our job to work with them (or to decide if we use them) is exactly what makes you expect complaints. Who else would complain about something other than the users?
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
You're right. Dont complain about anything or ask for improvements. Bend over and take it from Microsoft.
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@scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:
I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
Actually it being our job to work with them (or to decide if we use them) is exactly what makes you expect complaints. Who else would complain about something other than the users?
Yeah, but why use it that's my question after a while then?
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
You're right. Dont complain about anything or ask for improvements. Bend over and take it from Microsoft.
If nothing changes, why continue to use it correct?
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
You're right. Dont complain about anything or ask for improvements. Bend over and take it from Microsoft.
If nothing changes, why continue to use it correct?
Correct. Which is why most businesses use a 3rd party patching system.
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I amazes me that some of us manage Windows Systems and we still complain about them when it is our job to work with them....Not everything in Microsoft System is perfect nor does everything in Linux./
You're right. Dont complain about anything or ask for improvements. Bend over and take it from Microsoft.
If nothing changes, why continue to use it correct?
You have to complain to articulate why it should be avoided. My response has certainly been to avoid it or, more often, actively remove it from environments.
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As i've mentioned, i'd not setup a wsus server before that i put into production. I had setup wsus servers before, but never had any joy with them so never released them to production and never used one.
I looked at wsus alternatives and I perceived that there was going to be just as much work installing, learning and maintaining the alternatives as there was going to be with wsus.
Then I thought, wsus will give me another MS skill and/or increase my MS knowledge base, it's also free, so went with that.
we have to remember it's the stuff that doesn't work all the time that keeps us in jobs, if everything just worked out of the box, you could Mary from accounts to put it all together and we'd be out of a job.
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@obsolesce said in WSUS Help:
@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
There's no need to... what could they possibly do to make it any better?
I really hope you are joking....
Well ya, what would you add or take away from WSUS to improve it that would work globally?
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@obsolesce said in WSUS Help:
@obsolesce said in WSUS Help:
@obsolesce From what i can tell MS hasnt updated WSUS in any way since 2013.
There's no need to... what could they possibly do to make it any better?
I really hope you are joking....
Well ya, what would you add or take away from WSUS to improve it that would work globally?
Being able to manage update groups without group policy, a much better approval/denial system for updates, better classification of updates, more deployment options, a more scalable infrastructure, and a web interface.... Just to name a few things off the top of my head.
