Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit
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https://twitter.com/jhuntervmware
This guys representation of VMware and their storage team tell me more than needs to be known about VMware and their storage products. The things that he says are ridiculous, and this is an official rep on the marketing team who claims engineering background.
[I'm told that Jeff supposedly thought that he was talking to Nutanix and not without context, but there is no such context. So there is some possibility that Jeff is just really, really incompetent at marketing, too and said things that were very werong, but at least in a semi-valid context. But that doens't make it a whole lot better.]
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Interestingly, does this mean that he thinks that getting a discount on VMware products literally lowers the quality simply because the price was lower?
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Price does not equal value.
If you believe that it does, then I have a million dollar hypervisor to sell you.
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@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
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I sell a hypervisor at $2m per physical core.
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@obsolesce said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
I'm told it's because Nutanix was trying to promote something very not-free as being free. And this was out of context in a fight between Vmware and Nutanix. If that's true, Nutanix baited VMware pretty well because that conversation doesn't exist, it's just VMware making insane claims.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@obsolesce said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
I'm told it's because Nutanix was trying to promote something very not-free as being free. And this was out of context in a fight between Vmware and Nutanix. If that's true, Nutanix baited VMware pretty well because that conversation doesn't exist, it's just VMware making insane claims.
LOL horrible marketing then.
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@obsolesce Yeah, at best this is a pretty big marketing blunder.
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What's funny is that started with a discussion on cloning. I can fully clone on my KVM boxes in less than 5 seconds. It takes about a minute and a half to two minutes on our VMware boxes.
Linked clones with a backing store happen immediately on KVM just like on VMware. I don't see the upside to paying for that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@obsolesce said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
I'm told it's because Nutanix was trying to promote something very not-free as being free. And this was out of context in a fight between Vmware and Nutanix. If that's true, Nutanix baited VMware pretty well because that conversation doesn't exist, it's just VMware making insane claims.
In all honesty he didn't promote anything. Just said "love my free hypervisor." Which has some truth. AHV is just KVM.
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@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@obsolesce said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
I'm told it's because Nutanix was trying to promote something very not-free as being free. And this was out of context in a fight between Vmware and Nutanix. If that's true, Nutanix baited VMware pretty well because that conversation doesn't exist, it's just VMware making insane claims.
In all honesty he didn't promote anything. Just said "love my free hypervisor." Which has some truth. AHV is just KVM.
Supposedly he might have deleted some of his comments. So there might have been more conversation than is visible. But even so, Jeff didn't respond to him he just posted the comment without any context.
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@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
What's funny is that started with a discussion on cloning. I can fully clone on my KVM boxes in less than 5 seconds. It takes about a minute and a half to two minutes on our VMware boxes.
Linked clones with a baking store happen immediately on KVM just like on VMware. I don't see the upside to paying for that.
Because, obviously, you get what you pay for.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@obsolesce said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@scottalanmiller if this is the kind of logic VMWare has, then no thank you, ever.
I'm told it's because Nutanix was trying to promote something very not-free as being free. And this was out of context in a fight between Vmware and Nutanix. If that's true, Nutanix baited VMware pretty well because that conversation doesn't exist, it's just VMware making insane claims.
In all honesty he didn't promote anything. Just said "love my free hypervisor." Which has some truth. AHV is just KVM.
Supposedly he might have deleted some of his comments. So there might have been more conversation than is visible. But even so, Jeff didn't respond to him he just posted the comment without any context.
Here's all that's visible. Doesn't seem to be anything deleted as it all makes sense.
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Sorry those are uploaded backwards. Hard to do on the phone.
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@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
Sorry those are uploaded backwards. Hard to do on the phone.
@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
Sorry those are uploaded backwards. Hard to do on the phone.
How do you see that? If you go to Jeff's page, there is no such thread. The screen shot that I gave is all that there was.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
What's funny is that started with a discussion on cloning. I can fully clone on my KVM boxes in less than 5 seconds. It takes about a minute and a half to two minutes on our VMware boxes.
Linked clones with a baking store happen immediately on KVM just like on VMware. I don't see the upside to paying for that.
Because, obviously, you get what you pay for.
Yeah. That's why I said earlier that no real cloud provider uses them. They don't want the lock in and they can "usually" get better performance.
OpenStack on a 380G6. Spinning up takes about 20-30 seconds but that's with full cloud init provisioning.
Honestly, I don't personally care what's on the other end as long as I can use an API to control it or just define it in a text file somehow. So I don't see any benefits from a UI.
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@scottalanmiller said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
Sorry those are uploaded backwards. Hard to do on the phone.
@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
Sorry those are uploaded backwards. Hard to do on the phone.
How do you see that? If you go to Jeff's page, there is no such thread. The screen shot that I gave is all that there was.
Nicholson had the original tweet. Just go to his.
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@stacksofplates said in Jeff Hunter Worries Me Quite a Bit:
https://twitter.com/lost_signal/status/999039907254415367?s=21
That's confusing because it shows me in that conversation but I only responded to Jeff via a different context.
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If I was running full Windows I might see some benefits. But with distributed systems and not having the Linux specific tools like libguestfs it makes it not worth it at all.
