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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@nerdydad said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@nerdydad said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@nerdydad said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
My wife and I were just discussing this thread and she mentioned how we lived for our first four years of marriage with no TV at all, not just no cable, but no Netflix or anything either. I had forgotten, we used to watch DVDs on a little Mac Mini, that was all that we had. We'd watch video games that each other played, but had no TV.
No OTA TV?
I've not had access to that since 1994. You need a TV, a tuner, and an antenna to do that. I've owned a TV most of the time since 1994, but only most, far from all. I've never owned either of the other two, ever. I've never owned a VCR (my parents did, but not me) ever. From 1994 - 2008 I owned Laserdisc players and DVD players, nothing else. In 2008, right at the end of the year, we bought a BluRay player and earlier in 2008 we got Netflix.
The tuner was built into the TV. You just had to plug in an antenna into the TV and search for channels.
In the 1990s that was the case. Has not been for a very long time. I've owned a total of one TV in my life that had a tuner, and I only had possession of it for about one year, and it was a CRT. I owned that around 1998.
Ohhh...that sucked.
Not at all, I detest traditional television. I could have bought a TV, I had a $17K audio system, and a nice townhouse. I could have bought an antenna. I could have afforded cable. But I actively don't want that in my life. And any time I've been exposed to "just watch whatever is on" since that time, I've confirmed that I made the right choice.
My wife comes from a "the TV is always on, you always have premium cable and you always watch stuff" family, and she feels the same way. We really dislike the idea of watching "whatever is on."
So you don't own a TV today? Assuming you have a large screen to display on, you have either a Vizio or a projector (only mainstream options I'm aware of that don't have built in tuners - though, you had a $17K audio system, so it's definitely possible you have some other brand monitor that doesn't have a built in tuner.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
So you don't own a TV today? Assuming you have a large screen to display on, you have either a Vizio or a projector (only mainstream options I'm aware of that don't have built in tuners - though, you had a $17K audio system, so it's definitely possible you have some other brand monitor that doesn't have a built in tuner.
No idea, my current TVs are new (few months) and cheap (Walmart special). I grabbed them as we owned nothing but projectors (the hang from the ceiling kind) and never looked. I'd guess that these do have tuners as they are new and small and cheap, the things that tend to have tuners these days. But I don't have an antenna to hook to, or cable.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
No, none of that matters. If you were willing to keep watching shows the way that you do now, nothing would change except the cost savings. Your wife is a red herring here. All that matters is why paying a lot for crippled shows makes you willing to do something that saving money for uncrippled you'd be unwilling to keep doing.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
No, none of that matters. If you were willing to keep watching shows the way that you do now, nothing would change except the cost savings. Your wife is a red herring here. All that matters is why paying a lot for crippled shows makes you willing to do something that saving money for uncrippled you'd be unwilling to keep doing.
and I would basically have to give up TV for 6+ months to get there.
And the fact that things like Jeopardy aren't on Netflix or any streaming service.. something she wants...but, as already stated.. we will be giving this a try soon. so she's giving that up anyhow.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
No, none of that matters. If you were willing to keep watching shows the way that you do now, nothing would change except the cost savings. Your wife is a red herring here. All that matters is why paying a lot for crippled shows makes you willing to do something that saving money for uncrippled you'd be unwilling to keep doing.
and I would basically have to give up TV for 6+ months to get there.
This is based on a few really bad assumptions.
- That Netflix has no content of its own.
- That you current watch all television that exists.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
did you miss the part about not having enough self control to not binge - is that blunt enough?
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
No, none of that matters. If you were willing to keep watching shows the way that you do now, nothing would change except the cost savings. Your wife is a red herring here. All that matters is why paying a lot for crippled shows makes you willing to do something that saving money for uncrippled you'd be unwilling to keep doing.
and I would basically have to give up TV for 6+ months to get there.
This is based on a few really bad assumptions.
- That Netflix has no content of its own.
- That you current watch all television that exists.
Very little that we agree upon. Which again is the whole point - shows must be something we will both watch.. otherwise it doesn't matter.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
did you miss the part about not having enough self control to not binge - is that blunt enough?
Did you miss the part where I kept pointing out that you HAVE that self control now, that is what is keeping you from binging today, but you do it in a weird way that involves paying someone a lot of money to dole out your shows for you?
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
Having a show to binge, all the shows are just there, basically kills the schedule. You might be the type to set down and do a ridged schedule like that, but I am not.
This is what I'm saying. I hear you, and I'm just translating... you are paying someone to take away the binge option. You have the willpower to pay someone to take away the way that you want to watch television and force you to watch it in a way you like less.
What I don't understand is... if you like it less, why do it?
hold the phone, it's not me - remember, this whole situation stems from my wife's desire to have me in visual eye line for 95% of the time we are in the house together and awake.
If she wouldn't have a fit about that, this would be a complete non issue - I'd have a second TV in another part of the house and we'd see each other for about 1 hour a day (for dinner), except when we leave the house together to do things.
No, none of that matters. If you were willing to keep watching shows the way that you do now, nothing would change except the cost savings. Your wife is a red herring here. All that matters is why paying a lot for crippled shows makes you willing to do something that saving money for uncrippled you'd be unwilling to keep doing.
and I would basically have to give up TV for 6+ months to get there.
This is based on a few really bad assumptions.
- That Netflix has no content of its own.
- That you current watch all television that exists.
Very little that we agree upon. Which again is the whole point - shows must be something we will both watch.. otherwise it doesn't matter.
So you actually feel that all shows that you could agree upon have been watched and that moving to other media wouldn't add any new potential shows? That seems extreme. Possible, but extreme.
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Also, you can consider filling the gap with movies.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
did you miss the part about not having enough self control to not binge - is that blunt enough?
Did you miss the part where I kept pointing out that you HAVE that self control now, that is what is keeping you from binging today, but you do it in a weird way that involves paying someone a lot of money to dole out your shows for you?
how do I have it today? I don't because the shows are coming out now. The show isn't bingable today.. it will be in 7 months.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
Also, you can consider filling the gap with movies.
same issue - finding movies we both like.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
did you miss the part about not having enough self control to not binge - is that blunt enough?
Did you miss the part where I kept pointing out that you HAVE that self control now, that is what is keeping you from binging today, but you do it in a weird way that involves paying someone a lot of money to dole out your shows for you?
how do I have it today? I don't because the shows are coming out now. The show isn't bingable today.. it will be in 7 months.
Sure, and you use money and self control to keep yourself from binging it. I do not, I wait and binge.
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@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
Also, you can consider filling the gap with movies.
same issue - finding movies we both like.
Right, but you've already exhausted the history of movies? You are waiting for new movies to be made to have things to watch?
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You say that I sound extreme with things, but this feels so much more extreme than me. I dislike nearly all television and movies, yet never have this level of issue finding things to watch with people.
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@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
@scottalanmiller said in YouTube TV:
@dashrender said in YouTube TV:
When House of cards dropped on Netflix, I thought it was kinda cool - bam binge watch awesome, no waiting... but after 2-5 days of watching, now I get to wait 12 months for the next installment. That's to long for me personally.
Sure, but you get that even worse the way that you do things now. that's what I don't understand. Netflix only makes this better in every way, there is no worse.
eh? how is it better - other than forcing myself to only watch one episode a week? So assuming I binge it, it's still 12 more months until Netflix gets the next season, so ...
But you don't have to binge. You can't binge now, so even having the option to is purely a bonus. What you are doing today is not taken away, only more, better options are made available. There is no downside. Costs less, no options lost.
did you miss the part about not having enough self control to not binge - is that blunt enough?
Did you miss the part where I kept pointing out that you HAVE that self control now, that is what is keeping you from binging today, but you do it in a weird way that involves paying someone a lot of money to dole out your shows for you?
how do I have it today? I don't because the shows are coming out now. The show isn't bingable today.. it will be in 7 months.
Sure, and you use money and self control to keep yourself from binging it. I do not, I wait and binge.
Waiting is self control, paying to watch now is possibly a lack there of - damn that makes me look super lame right now.
