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@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
To run GUI apps... which is what you want on your desktop.
You can easily install gnome-tweak-tool or something like that to add desktop icons if you want them. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
Currently, I don't have it. That side bar thing seems to work well enough for me. It's non-intrusive unlike on other distros.
From what read, using gnome-tweak-tool to enable desktop icons might not work either. That's why there's a gnome extension being developed.
It worked for me.
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Hmm... did I try it on Fedora 27? I know it worked on 25 and 26 for sure. Maybe I haven't tried on 27.
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@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Hmm... did I try it on Fedora 27? I know it worked on 25 and 26 for sure. Maybe I haven't tried on 27.
@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Hmm... did I try it on Fedora 27? I know it worked on 25 and 26 for sure. Maybe I haven't tried on 27.
It supposed to happened with Gnome 3.28. Fedora 27 uses Gnome 3.26.
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@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Hmm... did I try it on Fedora 27? I know it worked on 25 and 26 for sure. Maybe I haven't tried on 27.
@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Hmm... did I try it on Fedora 27? I know it worked on 25 and 26 for sure. Maybe I haven't tried on 27.
It supposed to happened with Gnome 3.28. Fedora 27 uses Gnome 3.26.
Ah I see.. missed that
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@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
To run GUI apps... which is what you want on your desktop.
that's not where they run. GUI apps run over the top of the desktop, not on the desktop itself. The desktop was designed originally, and remains still, solely for a place to hold icons.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
To run GUI apps... which is what you want on your desktop.
that's not where they run. GUI apps run over the top of the desktop, not on the desktop itself. The desktop was designed originally, and remains still, solely for a place to hold icons.
"on", "on top of", "over the top of", whatever man..., I get ya.
I seen it as 2 dimensional, but see what you mean.
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@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
To run GUI apps... which is what you want on your desktop.
that's not where they run. GUI apps run over the top of the desktop, not on the desktop itself. The desktop was designed originally, and remains still, solely for a place to hold icons.
"on", "on top of", "over the top of", whatever man..., I get ya.
I seen it as 2 dimensional, but see what you mean.
Kind of like the difference having a stick note on my physical desktop at home, or holding a tablet that I'm using while sitting at the desk.
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@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
I don't see it has an issue since there are other Desktop environments to choose from that still supports storing items on Desktop. And plus the Nautilus developer is developing an gnome extension.
I never have icons on my desktop. Much easier to just hit Windows key and type what I want.
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@stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
I don't see it has an issue since there are other Desktop environments to choose from that still supports storing items on Desktop. And plus the Nautilus developer is developing an gnome extension.
I never have icons on my desktop. Much easier to just hit Windows key and type what I want.
That's fine, I do that too, but then why have a desktop at all? What's the point of that entire metaphor if it is disabled?
I never put apps there, but I do put files that I'm using currently as a scratch space.
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@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
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@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
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@dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
This explains their reason for removal in details.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/158 -
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
This explains their reason for removal in details.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/158Yeah, I've read it and basically they are saying "no one feels like working on what needs to be done, only on the fun stuff" which to me tells me that Gnome has some serious problems with being a viable project. This means, to me, that there are way too many desktop projects out there and Gnome is one that has lost its steam. It's a reason, but it's not a good one.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28
So what exactly is the purpose of the desktop then?
I don't see it has an issue since there are other Desktop environments to choose from that still supports storing items on Desktop. And plus the Nautilus developer is developing an gnome extension.
I never have icons on my desktop. Much easier to just hit Windows key and type what I want.
That's fine, I do that too, but then why have a desktop at all? What's the point of that entire metaphor if it is disabled?
I never put apps there, but I do put files that I'm using currently as a scratch space.
You still need an interface to interact with. If you just use window managers then you wouldn’t need a “desktop” but GNOME offers a lot of features that a lot of window managers don’t have.
I don’t even put files there. 99% of what I’m doing is either browser or terminal/code editor. And I use the directory trees in the code editors.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
This explains their reason for removal in details.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/158Yeah, I've read it and basically they are saying "no one feels like working on what needs to be done, only on the fun stuff" which to me tells me that Gnome has some serious problems with being a viable project. This means, to me, that there are way too many desktop projects out there and Gnome is one that has lost its steam. It's a reason, but it's not a good one.
serious problems with being a viable project.
This is just ridiculous. There are tons of people out there that feel the same way I do and never out stuff on the desktop. No one is forcing anyone to use GNOME. If they don’t like it they can use something else.
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Ubuntu 18.04 will be dropping Intel 32bit architecture support. Probably a very good thing, no one should be wasting resources on that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
This explains their reason for removal in details.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/158Yeah, I've read it and basically they are saying "no one feels like working on what needs to be done, only on the fun stuff" which to me tells me that Gnome has some serious problems with being a viable project. This means, to me, that there are way too many desktop projects out there and Gnome is one that has lost its steam. It's a reason, but it's not a good one.
OK good, I wasn't the only one feeling that way.
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@stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller did you even bother to read the article? Or did you just reply? Because it is clearly noted what the reason is.
Because they couldn't find anyone who wanted to code it - seems like a pretty lame reason to me.
Like Scott, I don't keep application shortcuts on the desktop (OK I do, but I that's because the installer puked it on there and I was to lazy to remove it), but I do use it as a fast to reach dumping ground for current projects.
Chrome OS's lack of this ability really irked me when I was trying to setup a user on one last year.
This explains their reason for removal in details.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/158Yeah, I've read it and basically they are saying "no one feels like working on what needs to be done, only on the fun stuff" which to me tells me that Gnome has some serious problems with being a viable project. This means, to me, that there are way too many desktop projects out there and Gnome is one that has lost its steam. It's a reason, but it's not a good one.
serious problems with being a viable project.
This is just ridiculous. There are tons of people out there that feel the same way I do and never out stuff on the desktop. No one is forcing anyone to use GNOME. If they don’t like it they can use something else.
I think that was Scott's entire point. GNOMEs use (in relation to the desktop having files and icons on it) have dwindled to near zero use... so the project might be viable (Scott typical overstating) but clearly not viable in this vain.
