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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

      @openit said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

      @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

      @openit It's really easy to fall into a generalist role naturally because a lot of SMB's have a single IT staff and you will be responsible for everything. @Dashrender and I are both generalists. It's not great.

      Yeah I can understand that. Why you are not feeling great, is that same reason I am seeing now ? that is "not specialized and may find difficulty when we want to move to other company" ?

      It's harder to be good at your job as a generalist than it is a specialist just due to the amount of knowledge required.

      Same amount needed, just different stuff. Generalists need more different things (broad) and specialists need fewer things (focused.) The total amount to know is the same.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

        It's also a lot more stressful to be responsible for absolutely everything--instead of just your niche thing.

        I've done both, I don't feel that this is true. Generalists rarely are tasks with critical things like specialists are. So the stress is normally much lower.

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          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

          @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

          It's also a lot more stressful to be responsible for absolutely everything--instead of just your niche thing.

          I've done both, I don't feel that this is true. Generalists rarely are tasks with critical things like specialists are. So the stress is normally much lower.

          Any stress I feel comes from a lack of knowledge. If I know the fix to the situation I am calm as a cucumber

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller I'm also approaching this as someone who desperately wants to learn, not @JaredBusch 's position where he already has a vast amount of knowledge.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

              @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

              It's also a lot more stressful to be responsible for absolutely everything--instead of just your niche thing.

              I've done both, I don't feel that this is true. Generalists rarely are tasks with critical things like specialists are. So the stress is normally much lower.

              Any stress I feel comes from a lack of knowledge. If I know the fix to the situation I am calm as a cucumber

              Not really, I don't believe that that is true. The stress comes from you applying unrealistic and unsubstantiated expectations that cannot be met. The lack of knowledge aspect comes heavily from that other issue.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                It's also a lot more stressful to be responsible for absolutely everything--instead of just your niche thing.

                I've done both, I don't feel that this is true. Generalists rarely are tasks with critical things like specialists are. So the stress is normally much lower.

                Any stress I feel comes from a lack of knowledge. If I know the fix to the situation I am calm as a cucumber

                Not really, I don't believe that that is true. The stress comes from you applying unrealistic and unsubstantiated expectations that cannot be met. The lack of knowledge aspect comes heavily from that other issue.

                Doesn't the unrealistic and unsubstantiated expectations come out of the lack of knowledge? Only way to resolve that is to learn, which I'm trying to do--limited by what I can absorb and understand of course.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                  It's also a lot more stressful to be responsible for absolutely everything--instead of just your niche thing.

                  I've done both, I don't feel that this is true. Generalists rarely are tasks with critical things like specialists are. So the stress is normally much lower.

                  Any stress I feel comes from a lack of knowledge. If I know the fix to the situation I am calm as a cucumber

                  Not really, I don't believe that that is true. The stress comes from you applying unrealistic and unsubstantiated expectations that cannot be met. The lack of knowledge aspect comes heavily from that other issue.

                  Doesn't the unrealistic and unsubstantiated expectations come out of the lack of knowledge? Only way to resolve that is to learn, which I'm trying to do--limited by what I can absorb and understand of course.

                  No, because you will just have a moving bar if that is the case. We've covered this, your issue is that you set impossible expectations and are not based on reality - that means that no amount of learning will change that.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                    @scottalanmiller I'm also approaching this as someone who desperately wants to learn, not @JaredBusch 's position where he already has a vast amount of knowledge.

                    The only way to get 'vast amount of knowledge' is over a vast amount of time. Youre not going to get 20 years of xp and knowledge in 1 year, 2 years, or 5 years.
                    It is like investing in that way, a little bit over long period of time = millionaire and retiring before age 65.
                    a little knowledge every day for many years = being able to say 'FFS' to others.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @momurda
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                      @momurda said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                      @scottalanmiller I'm also approaching this as someone who desperately wants to learn, not @JaredBusch 's position where he already has a vast amount of knowledge.

                      The only way to get 'vast amount of knowledge' is over a vast amount of time. Youre not going to get 20 years of xp and knowledge in 1 year, 2 years, or 5 years.
                      It is like investing in that way, a little bit over long period of time = millionaire and retiring before age 65.
                      a little knowledge every day for many years = being able to say 'FFS' to others.

                      It's less that I expect to learn everything in a short amount of time and more that I've been doing this for a little bit and feel like I should be further along, but I hear you for sure. I shouldn't be as hard on myself in that way.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @momurda
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                        @momurda said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                        @scottalanmiller I'm also approaching this as someone who desperately wants to learn, not @JaredBusch 's position where he already has a vast amount of knowledge.

                        The only way to get 'vast amount of knowledge' is over a vast amount of time. Youre not going to get 20 years of xp and knowledge in 1 year, 2 years, or 5 years.
                        It is like investing in that way, a little bit over long period of time = millionaire and retiring before age 65.
                        a little knowledge every day for many years = being able to say 'FFS' to others.

                        Exactly. Lots of time with regular, continuous studying all of that time. People often wonder how I knew so much so early in my IT career... it's because I studied for four years before getting my first SE job and did five years as an SE before getting my first real IT job. That's nine years of prep for my entry level position! And I was still entry level (but above minimum wage, at least.)

                        SE is closely enough related to IT that in those early years, it advanced you almost as fast.

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                        • EddieJenningsE
                          EddieJennings
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                          This has been such a great thread to read, as I can empathize with @wirestyle22 with the knowledge and self-expectation problem. And I can empathize with the OP with trying to determine a direction.

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper @EddieJennings
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                            @EddieJennings said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                            This has been such a great thread to read, as I can empathize with @wirestyle22 with the knowledge and self-expectation problem. And I can empathize with the OP with trying to determine a direction.

                            Career choices are hard. So many options but the route you pick affects you for so long.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              So back to the top....

                              First step: determine the career goal that you are working towards.

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
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                                That's certainly where you need to start. Don't let the job define you, define your own career.

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                                • openitO
                                  openit @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                                  So back to the top....

                                  First step: determine the career goal that you are working towards.

                                  @Reid-Cooper said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                                  That's certainly where you need to start. Don't let the job define you, define your own career.

                                  Ok, I realized determining the career goal should be at top, but still above conversation given me good enough knowledge and understanding about IT posts/career path.

                                  Thanks all for suggestions and sharing knowledge !!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Good luck on finding a new step up in your career!

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                                    • openitO
                                      openit
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                                      But still I don't know why Emojis are not working with me 🙂 , well I may need to start a topic under community things ?

                                      How about selecting BA or HA, isn't there anything like that here ?

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                                      • openitO
                                        openit @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                                        Good luck on finding a new step up in your career!

                                        Thank You !

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @openit
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                                          @openit said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                                          But still I don't know why Emojis are not working with me 🙂 , well I may need to start a topic under community things ?

                                          How about selecting BA or HA, isn't there anything like that here ?

                                          Emojis don't work, has nothing to do with you. With many updates to the community, emojis are the things that break.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @openit
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                                            @openit said in Which IT role I am suitable and to which should I apply for ?:

                                            How about selecting BA or HA, isn't there anything like that here ?

                                            No, those cause lots of confusion. Upvote thing that are helpful. You can mark something solved, but not BA. BA doesn't say that it is solved and provides for a lot of confusion.

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