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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis
      last edited by

      From this thread: https://mangolassi.it/topic/13737/checking-on-patch-levels-with-multiple-clients-ninite-pro/13
      I'd like to build a cloud Windows Server. I know some have had issues with Azure. What about AWS? I know vultr is popular, but I can't seem to find pricing on the Windows Server license part of it.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
        last edited by wirestyle22

        Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with

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        • coliverC
          coliver @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:

          Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with

          Why not open your server up to the world? Use a jump box and ssh and you'd be good to go.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in best hosted Windows server:

            @wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:

            Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with

            Why not open your server up to the world? Use a jump box and ssh and you'd be good to go.

            I could I just haven't

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:

              Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with

              Yes. It's $16 for the license. Says it on the OS box when you select it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

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                • AdamFA
                  AdamF
                  last edited by

                  But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @AdamF
                    last edited by

                    @fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016

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                    • AdamFA
                      AdamF @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @AdamF
                        last edited by

                        @fuznutz04 In my experience everything special that they do is not beneficial, like turning off selinux 😞

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @AdamF
                          last edited by

                          @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                          But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?

                          No, Windows doesn't work that way.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:

                            @fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016

                            No, you can't do that.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @AdamF
                              last edited by

                              @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                              @wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.

                              Yes, they do. But there is no tech limiting you from doing what you describe, just licensing problems. Because you have to license the entire Vultr cloud because the workload can run anywhere. You don't know how many CPUs they have, how many cores, how many nodes. Assume quad CPU, 12 cores boxes with 4,000 nodes per datacenter. How many Windows standard licenses do you need to run one VM there?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                This older article is about Cloud@Cost where there is no way to run Windows. Vultr has full Windows licensing options, but you can't skip them for the reasons that C@C could not do it at all.

                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller I stand corrected

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by Obsolesce

                                    @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                    Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                                    Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                                    https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute

                                    But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.

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                                    • AdamFA
                                      AdamF @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

                                      Where is the dislike button? That sucks. I understand it, but that really is unfortunate.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                        Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                                        Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                                        The top option for an SMB is a console. Azure doesn't offer a console. Nothing else they offer makes it competitive with Vultr in an "ease of use" way. Nothing wrong with not offering a console, AWS does not either. It's the "cloud" way to do things. But SMBs have no use for clouds, they need VPS. Vultr is a VPS build on cloud, so a much better fit for the SMB audience.

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                                        • AdamFA
                                          AdamF @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                          Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                                          Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                                          https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute

                                          But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.

                                          Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.

                                          If I was to spin up a new Windows workload somewhere in the future, it probably would not be at Azure, due to cost.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @AdamF
                                            last edited by

                                            @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                                            Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.

                                            The "problem" with Azure is that instead of 100 people all having five minutes of outages, they have five people who have 100 minutes of outages. It's the same downtime average, but hits differently. It means that for people for whom it works, it often really works. But the risk of failure is really high - meaning that unlike an Amazon failure that is often quite small, the failure might be insanely large if you happen to get hit.

                                            It's a lot like a T1 vs. cable line. Cable lines typically drop a few minutes a year, T1s tend to go decades without a missed packet - then go down for a week at a single shot.

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