Normal Forms of Systems Administration
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Why is nobody else talking about stuff like this?
Side note: Have you ever considered writing a textbook?
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@NerdyDad said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
Why is nobody else talking about stuff like this?
Because very few people cross between enterprise, DevOps public cloud and SMB space to put the pieces together.
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@NerdyDad said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
Side note: Have you ever considered writing a textbook?
The idea has been discussed
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Moving into the desktop realm, one of the biggest challenges is automated applications. Moving to repos makes this a lot smoother.
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@scottalanmiller said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
Moving into the desktop realm, one of the biggest challenges is automated applications. Moving to repos makes this a lot smoother.
A la chocolatey for Windows.
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So if 4th is strictly using RSAT... would 5th be full automation using SCCM, SCVMM, Orchestrator, and App Controller?
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@dafyre said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
@scottalanmiller said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
Moving into the desktop realm, one of the biggest challenges is automated applications. Moving to repos makes this a lot smoother.
A la chocolatey for Windows.
Right. That's definitely a good option. I've used Salt + Chocolatey for Windows desktop administration.
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@Tim_G said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
So if 4th is strictly using RSAT... would 5th be full automation using SCCM, SCVMM, Orchestrator, and App Controller?
Yes, I believe so. Those would be tools in the Microsoft toolset for that. They tend to take a very different approach than many of their competitors and it's been a while since I've used it. Not sure if SCCM goes all of the way to defined state or just really heavily automated forth form. But I think you can get to that state.
I believe it is properly state defined (fifth form) but not code defined like most of the alternatives.
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@scottalanmiller said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
@Tim_G said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
So if 4th is strictly using RSAT... would 5th be full automation using SCCM, SCVMM, Orchestrator, and App Controller?
Yes, I believe so. Those would be tools in the Microsoft toolset for that. They tend to take a very different approach than many of their competitors and it's been a while since I've used it. Not sure if SCCM goes all of the way to defined state or just really heavily automated forth form. But I think you can get to that state.
I believe it is properly state defined (fifth form) but not code defined like most of the alternatives.
I think I got lost in all the clutter... but why do you separate Remote GUI from Remote CLI ?
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@dafyre said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
@scottalanmiller said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
@Tim_G said in Normal Forms of Systems Administration:
So if 4th is strictly using RSAT... would 5th be full automation using SCCM, SCVMM, Orchestrator, and App Controller?
Yes, I believe so. Those would be tools in the Microsoft toolset for that. They tend to take a very different approach than many of their competitors and it's been a while since I've used it. Not sure if SCCM goes all of the way to defined state or just really heavily automated forth form. But I think you can get to that state.
I believe it is properly state defined (fifth form) but not code defined like most of the alternatives.
I think I got lost in all the clutter... but why do you separate Remote GUI from Remote CLI ?
Essentially "automatable interface" vs non-automatable interface. Not that GUIs cannot be automated, but effectively they cannot be.
