Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?
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@lance said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Jeebus... What a task...
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/5m293q/active_directory_for_28_million_users/
This makes me sad... How do you even begin to scale that high with AD? -
What organization could possible need that AND what organization of 28 million users is wondering how to talk to Microsoft? If you have that many users, Bill Gates has you over for dinner. Something is really, really fishy there.
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Sounds like it will be used for some kind of federation services for users to log in to via the web.... think online banking website, or Facebook (had they wanted to AD for user logins, which is a terrible idea). If that's the case, it'll need to be HA, which means it will need to be distributed across multiple sites, load balancing, failover, AD CS / AD FS / WAP, the WHOLE SHABANG!
Hope they are prepared for that. Very little details are given, but that's how it looks without giving it a ton of thought.
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Complete bullshit... there is no way you'd setup AD for 28 million + user accounts.
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Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
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@momurda LDAP on Linux would be my guess
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@momurda Does china pay for Microsoft licensing.... ?
haha..... just kidding I know that answer.
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@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.
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@aaronstuder said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@momurda LDAP on Linux would be my guess
Nah, doesn't scale well for that. LDAP is not good for account management.
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Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
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@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
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@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
True that.
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Common user systems would be MariaDB, MongoDB, Cassandra and such.
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@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.
Exactly. He said "external authentication" which makes me think for some kind of external to internal authentication for some kind of services using federation services with Active Directory. That's not how you do it in that case, so his management has it all wrong. I think they just need a database... not AD DS.
Unless there's a lot more to it the OP is leaving out, this what it's pointing towards.
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@Tim_G said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
@momurda said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Ive always been curious how mega-huge orgs do this. China Mobile has 400M+ users. FB over 1B. what are they using?
Users, not customers. They don't use AD. They use their own databases. AD is for internal users 99.999% of the time. I've never heard of anyone using it for external. Most just use normal NoSQL databases.
Exactly. He said "external authentication" which makes me think for some kind of external to internal authentication for some kind of services using federation services with Active Directory. That's not how you do it in that case, so his management has it all wrong. I think they just need a database... not AD DS.
Unless there's a lot more to it the OP is leaving out, this what it's pointing towards.
Yeah, something is seriously wrong. Everything from the scope (28K is a major AD deployment worth hitting the traders, 28m is 1,000x that size, it would be a world record), not being in contact with the vendor as by far their biggest client, not knowing how to do the job, etc. This doesn't fit. It's like finding out a NASA rocket scientist is on Reddit asking how to design a rocket engine. If this guy isn't the world expert on AD, who is?
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@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
Ethiopia, Uganda, Congo, Afganistan, Yemen, Myanmar, Bangladesh.....
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@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
Australia is under 24m.
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@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
So, the entire third world might be 28m + ?
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@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@scottalanmiller said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
@RojoLoco said in Active Directory for 28+ Million Users?:
Which third world country did you sign on to administer????
It would have to be a HUGE one. Most third world countries don't have that many people!
So, the entire third world might be 28m + ?
Bangladesh alone is 150+....
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Okay, so what organization would have "28+ million authentic users"? Some giant conglomerate?
You're talking nearly 10% of America.
