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    XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @momurda from a quick glance those appear to be all CIFS ISO repos that are AD tied, so we should be able to just remove those to fix that, right? I don't see anything else.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda @CitrixNewbJD
        last edited by

        @CitrixNewbJD
        No i dont think so.
        You got some work to do though
        Probably need to do:
        log into the san and change the creds for iscsi, disable ad authentication in xc, and then probably forget/reattach the sr

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad
          last edited by

          I always try to make sure that I have an administrative local user to every system, just in case I cannot get to AD.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
            last edited by

            @momurda said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

            @CitrixNewbJD
            No i dont think so.
            You got some work to do though
            Probably need to do:
            log into the san and change the creds for iscsi, disable ad authentication in xc, and then probably forget/reattach the sr

            I didn't see it on the iSCSI, darn it. Still fixable, but more work.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
              last edited by

              @NerdyDad said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

              I always try to make sure that I have an administrative local user to every system, just in case I cannot get to AD.

              That, and never have AD on top of something that depends on it. That's like locking your keys in your car.

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                @NerdyDad said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                I always try to make sure that I have an administrative local user to every system, just in case I cannot get to AD.

                That, and never have AD on top of something that depends on it. That's like locking your keys in your car.

                Yup. Our SAN is isolated from the rest of the house network physically. All authentication between the SAN and the host should never even touch AD just in case of things like this.

                Sometimes playing what-if is a good exercise to keep bad things from happening as far as security, reliability, and recovery.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller
                  Yes the cifs repos can be forgotten for now. I doubt there is anything important there in the iso repo.
                  @CitrixNewbJD
                  Before you do anything else, make sure you have the root pw for your xs servers as disabling AD integration will force you to use them.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @momurda
                    last edited by

                    Unless you have a DC that you can get working, ie one not attached to your shared storage. Perhaps you have a physical dc somewhere? Unlikely i know.

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                    • sealS
                      seal
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                      @CitrixNewbJD This is Frank. I hope Scott and the gang here can help get you back operational quickly. To touch on a topic that was mentioned earlier, VMs from Xen can be imported and converted on the fly. As long as the Scale nodes can browse to the VM files (.vhd) on the storage, the XenServer functional state doesn't matter.

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                        CitrixNewbJD @momurda
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                        @momurda

                        Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC. Despite my warnings, because I know that we do not currently have one here, I was told to bring it all down. And here we are. We do not have a physical DC.

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                          CitrixNewbJD @momurda
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                          @momurda

                          I've been using the root authentication for everything.

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                            CitrixNewbJD @seal
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                            @seal

                            Frank, can we speak on the phone for a minute so I can be sure I can intelligently talk to the guy when demanding his money?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
                              last edited by

                              @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                              @momurda

                              Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC.

                              This is absolutely the wrong response. You should never have a physical DC, ever. There is zero issues here with virtualization. There are two problems....

                              • Zero AD redundancy
                              • An inverted pyramid of doom (single storage for all systems)

                              Fixing either of those anti-practices would have saved you. Physical would have zero benefit and is the polar opposite of the reaction that you should have.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
                                last edited by

                                @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                @momurda

                                I've been using the root authentication for everything.

                                So we are safe there.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  More on the IPOD: http://www.smbitjournal.com/2013/06/the-inverted-pyramid-of-doom/

                                  And in video form from MangoCon:

                                  Youtube Video

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                                    CitrixNewbJD
                                    last edited by

                                    So, when looking for places to turn off AD integration, I see this...

                                    0_1482873847039_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.23.59.png

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      It's not pool integration that is the issue, it's SAN integration. Check the SAN (PowerVault) interface instead.

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                                        CitrixNewbJD
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                                        @seal Just came across these two items on the SAN interface. Dental_Data, Spindlemedia, are critical and it looks like those VDs failed.

                                        PROFILE FOR STORAGE ARRAY: MDS-Spindle01 (12/27/16 3:28:58 PM) 
                                         
                                         
                                        STANDARD VIRTUAL DISKS------------------------------ 
                                         
                                        SUMMARY 
                                         
                                           Number of standard virtual disks: 3 
                                         
                                           See other Virtual Disks sub-tabs for premium feature information. 
                                         
                                         
                                           NAME          STATUS  CAPACITY  RAID LEVEL  DISK GROUP  DRIVE TYPE   
                                           Dental_Data   Failed  1.495 TB  5           0           SAS          
                                           SpindleMedia  Failed  2.862 TB  5           0           SAS          
                                           Virtual       Failed  1.367 TB  5           0           SAS          
                                         
                                        DETAILS 
                                         
                                         
                                           Virtual Disk name:                      Dental_Data                                       
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Capacity:                            1.495 TB                                          
                                              Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:7b:78:6a:00:00:04:13:4a:96:70:f3   
                                              Subsystem ID (SSID):                 1                                                 
                                              Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                              RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                              Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                                              Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                                         
                                         
                                              Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                              Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                              Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                              Modification priority:                              High       
                                         
                                         
                                              Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                              Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                                 Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                                 Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                              Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                              Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                              Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                                         
                                         
                                           Virtual Disk name:                      SpindleMedia                                      
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Capacity:                            2.862 TB                                          
                                              Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:07:f5:4d:ba:7b:fb   
                                              Subsystem ID (SSID):                 2                                                 
                                              Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                              RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                              Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                                              Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                                         
                                         
                                              Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                              Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                              Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                              Modification priority:                              High       
                                         
                                         
                                              Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                              Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                                 Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                                 Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                              Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                              Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                              Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                                         
                                         
                                           Virtual Disk name:                      Virtual                                           
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Capacity:                            1.367 TB                                          
                                              Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:04:31:4a:96:73:09   
                                              Subsystem ID (SSID):                 0                                                 
                                              Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                              RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                              Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                                     
                                              Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                                              Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                                         
                                         
                                              Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                              Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                              Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                              Modification priority:                              High       
                                         
                                         
                                              Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                              Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                                 Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                                 Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                              Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                              Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                              Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                                
                                              Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                                        

                                        0_1482874726865_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.38.36.png

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Oh look, on top of everything else, they left you with RAID 5, too. Figures. Whoever set this up really set you up for failure.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Your predecessor definitely pulled this on you: https://mangolassi.it/topic/11852/why-it-builds-a-house-of-cards

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