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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

      So with an IP setup you need...

      one wireless IP cam....

      That's it.

      This assumes the TV supports whatever decoding the website the camera's webhoster uses. i.e. is it flash based? if so, does the TV support flash?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        I wonder if an IP camera with built in webserver and a Chromecast might work?

        Then an old Android device could be used to control the Chromecasts.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

          I wonder if an IP camera with built in webserver and a Chromecast might work?

          Than an old Android device could be used to control the Chromecasts.

          Not a bad idea. Have not seen that yet.

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          • jt1001001J
            jt1001001
            last edited by

            This may work for you if you have old Android or iPhones.. We use Presence at home to turn one of our old iphones into a kid monitor in the playroom. Free for use. Load the app on one device as the "camera" and then load the app on say an ipad or an android tablet as the monitor. May work with one of the Android TV sticks as well.
            https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/presence-free-smart-home-motion/id618598211?mt=8
            https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peoplepowerco.presencepro&hl=en

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @jt1001001
              last edited by

              @jt1001001 I don't think the solution is to hobble something together from parts, but to provide a simple to use and hands off solution. Excluding turning the TV on.

              Not that using this may work, no one wants something that looks and feels hobbled.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                So @Mike-Davis have you made any separate considerations for this, is there a budget for this?

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

                  The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                    last edited by

                    @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                    @DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

                    The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

                    Your issues here are all the same.... started buying gear without any planning. The two pieces you need for this, the ONLY two pieces you need, are the right TVs and the right cameras. Neither of which have been planned correctly. So reading back, it sounds like the only goal was to move money somewhere, not to view videos. Why were televisions purchased without planning? What was their end goal?

                    That you need things like servers is because of other problems.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                      @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                      @DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

                      The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

                      Your issues here are all the same.... started buying gear without any planning. The two pieces you need for this, the ONLY two pieces you need, are the right TVs and the right cameras. Neither of which have been planned correctly. So reading back, it sounds like the only goal was to move money somewhere, not to view videos. Why were televisions purchased without planning? What was their end goal?

                      That you need things like servers is because of other problems.

                      LOL - I love the instant jump to they didn't plan, so they must just be out to screw the company.

                      I'm sure there wasn't any malice here, but there definitely wasn't any planning either - and no, one does not equal the other, if you were thinking that way.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                        LOL - I love the instant jump to they didn't plan, so they must just be out to screw the company.

                        Everyone, literally everyone knows that a failure to plan is a plan to fail.

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                        • Mike DavisM
                          Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Agreed. I'm waiting on the model numbers of the TVs. Even if they are Smart TVs, it doesn't look like I can use Ubiquiti cameras without a server.

                          Can anyone recommend a camera that they know works in the browser of a TV?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by scottalanmiller

                            @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                            I'm sure there wasn't any malice here, but there definitely wasn't any planning either - and no, one does not equal the other, if you were thinking that way.

                            Are you sure one does not equal the other? Spending someone elses' money without bothering to plan sure sounds like a description of malice.

                            If your teenager took hundreds of dollars on your behalf and just bought "whatever" without checking what was needed, they'd be in trouble for that, right? Why? Because being a buyer on someone's behalf and not bothering to try to buy what was needed but just buying to buy is considered a bit malicious by normal people.

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                            • PSX_DefectorP
                              PSX_Defector
                              last edited by

                              Really? Webcams and shit IP cameras? Do you want the old people at church to get a seizure from the 10fps and heart attacks from the configuration of the software? It's like none of you ever worked in AV.

                              Simplicity is needed here. Turn it on, point and shoot.

                              https://www.epiphan.com/products/pearl/

                              Throw in a nice Canon camera, run some quick VGA and/or HDMI cables and you are good to go.

                              Yeah, ain't as cheap as the other solutions, but do you really want the word of God to look like shit?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                                last edited by

                                @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                Agreed. I'm waiting on the model numbers of the TVs. Even if they are Smart TVs, it doesn't look like I can use Ubiquiti cameras without a server.

                                Correct, they are not the right gear for this situation. Those are security cameras that are part of an integrated security system. Not appropriate style for what is needed here.

                                Axis would work, even 15 years ago, but it very high end and expensive.

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller It's a church, its just as likely someone donated the tvs to be used for that purpose.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                    last edited by

                                    @brianlittlejohn said in analog video stream:

                                    @scottalanmiller It's a church, its just as likely someone donated the tvs to be used for that purpose.

                                    Well the description is that someone bought them. So if someone bought them just to donate them, sure. But seems unlikely. But it's a possibility.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
                                      last edited by

                                      @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                      @DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

                                      The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

                                      Something you might be able to do which may be easier is to use an IP camera, and OBS, use the IP camera as a source within OBS and then make a youtube stream.

                                      I've not got to try this before personally (using OBS and an IP camera) but I can't imagine it's not doable.

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in analog video stream:

                                        LOL - I love the instant jump to they didn't plan, so they must just be out to screw the company.
                                        I'm sure there wasn't any malice here, but there definitely wasn't any planning either - and no, one does not equal the other, if you were thinking that way.

                                        I just found out they didn't order the TVs yet. They thought they had been ordered but the donor didn't order them yet.

                                        Given that, how do I figure out which model of TV has a web browser will work with which camera?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                                          @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                          @DustinB3403 There isn't a budget. Someone bought two TVs, and then came to me and asked me what else they needed. I guessing the TVs aren't smart TVs. Even if they are, I just tried taking a Foscam camera I had and going to it from the web browser in my samsung smart TV. It flat out didn't work. I could get to the web page, but the "server push" mode wouldn't work. (I knew the Active X mode wasn't going to work.) On my laptop, I only get audio if I download a plug in, so I don't think a camera like that is going to work on most TVs.

                                          The other camera I have on my bench is a Ubiquiti Unifi G3 dome. I know I can't view that with a browser, so I'm going to have to set up a server just to test that unless I'm missing something.

                                          Something you might be able to do which may be easier is to use an IP camera, and OBS, use the IP camera as a source within OBS and then make a youtube stream.

                                          I've not got to try this before personally (using OBS and an IP camera) but I can't imagine it's not doable.

                                          Oh, that's a potentially good idea. Get the video to YouTube then you don't have to worry about compatibility. The only issue is bandwidth.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @PSX_Defector
                                            last edited by

                                            @PSX_Defector said in analog video stream:

                                            Yeah, ain't as cheap as the other solutions, but do you really want the word of God to look like shit?

                                            I want so badly to make snarky comments, but I will refrain....

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