Another Personal Storage Discussion
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When I joined ML, I was saving all my data to my local hard drive. I used OneDrive to have my data accessible in the cloud. I used CrashPlan to back all the local data up (including the synced OneDrive data). And I used a SED (self-encrypting drive).
I figured this was the perfect setup, but after a few weeks at ML, I started to have second thoughts as many people pushed the "no local data" philosophy.
So, I gave it a whirl, and I have to admit it's been pretty good. And it does make sense in many ways, especially with cloud aware applications such as Office 2016.
But some discussion here on ML last week really got my spooked to what my main issue has always been with this...no actual backup. What happens if someone were to hack my OneDrive account and delete all my files? What if somehow all the files got deleted? I know @scottalanmiller always says you have to trust that not to happen, but still...
My initial thought was ... just sync everything back to my computer, and then back that up to CrashPlan (or Back Blaze or whatever). And really the only issue I can see with that is the fact of having local data back on the computer. Plus it is a lot of local hard drive space I need. (I use a SSD.) It's not like I have NSA secrets, but I would prefer my files not to be out in the wild should I lose my laptop. Could I use a local desktop at my house (or a server/NAS)? Sure but the same loss issue is in play.
Perhaps just make the OneDrive password as strong as possible and hope for the best?
Maybe put the data back locally, and somehow secure the data?
Anyway, I am curious to know how everyone else deals with this issue. Do you feel you have a rock solid procedure? Or are you OK "sacrificing" certain areas?
(In the spirit of the debate tonight) ... thanks for your time.
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One other wrinkle here is I would like to find a solution that not only works for me, but also works for anyone who asks me how to back up their files.
Might not be possible...
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My final thought on this before comments ... a program that easily lets you sync from, say, OneDrive to Google Drive would be awesome here.
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This looks pretty interesting...
https://www.cloudhq.netIf you're using regular GMail and Regular OneDrive, it looks like it'd be free. For GApps (G Suite, ugh... I feel dirty writing that) for Work or O365 accounts, it's $10 a month.
It also works with Box, DropBox, and a few others as well.
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@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
This looks pretty interesting...
https://www.cloudhq.netIf you're using regular GMail and Regular OneDrive, it looks like it'd be free. For GApps (G Suite, ugh... I feel dirty writing that) for Work or O365 accounts, it's $10 a month.
It also works with Box, DropBox, and a few others as well.
I did see that.
I worry a little bit about third party app being involved but maybe it's just being paranoid.
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@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
This looks pretty interesting...
https://www.cloudhq.netIf you're using regular GMail and Regular OneDrive, it looks like it'd be free. For GApps (G Suite, ugh... I feel dirty writing that) for Work or O365 accounts, it's $10 a month.
It also works with Box, DropBox, and a few others as well.
I did see that.
I worry a little bit about third party app being involved but maybe it's just being paranoid.
How is that any different than having your data on a 3rd Party Server like OneDrive?
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@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
This looks pretty interesting...
https://www.cloudhq.netIf you're using regular GMail and Regular OneDrive, it looks like it'd be free. For GApps (G Suite, ugh... I feel dirty writing that) for Work or O365 accounts, it's $10 a month.
It also works with Box, DropBox, and a few others as well.
I did see that.
I worry a little bit about third party app being involved but maybe it's just being paranoid.
How is that any different than having your data on a 3rd Party Server like OneDrive?
I trust Microsoft more than whoever cloudhq.net is?
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@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
This looks pretty interesting...
https://www.cloudhq.netIf you're using regular GMail and Regular OneDrive, it looks like it'd be free. For GApps (G Suite, ugh... I feel dirty writing that) for Work or O365 accounts, it's $10 a month.
It also works with Box, DropBox, and a few others as well.
I did see that.
I worry a little bit about third party app being involved but maybe it's just being paranoid.
How is that any different than having your data on a 3rd Party Server like OneDrive?
I trust Microsoft more than whoever cloudhq.net is?
Understandable, lol.
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When you say "Local Computer" do you mean a Laptop, or a Desktop?
If it's a Desktop, then you should be able to add an external Drive and sync your OneDrive to that... and then back that up with CrashPlan.
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@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
When you say "Local Computer" do you mean a Laptop, or a Desktop?
If it's a Desktop, then you should be able to add an external Drive and sync your OneDrive to that... and then back that up with CrashPlan.
It could be a desktop.
My concern with that is theft.
I guess one could encrypt it with Bitlocker, but not sure if that's a bullet proof way either.
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@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
When you say "Local Computer" do you mean a Laptop, or a Desktop?
If it's a Desktop, then you should be able to add an external Drive and sync your OneDrive to that... and then back that up with CrashPlan.
I don't know about Crashplan, but other online backup solutions cost rise pretty fast to include external drives.
you could install a 5+ TB drive inside a machine that just sits in the corner syncing OD. Question, will the sync client automatically add any new content and folders added to OneDrive, or will you have to add them manually to be sync'ed locally then backed up.
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@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
I guess one could encrypt it with Bitlocker, but not sure if that's a bullet proof way either.
If you're worried about home break ins, Bitlocker should be more than enough. If you're worried about the three letter agencies, well, not sure what you should do.
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@Dashrender said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
I guess one could encrypt it with Bitlocker, but not sure if that's a bullet proof way either.
If you're worried about home break ins, Bitlocker should be more than enough. If you're worried about the three letter agencies, well, not sure what you should do.
Yeah all my stuff is above the law.
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@Dashrender said
I don't know about Crashplan, but other online backup solutions cost rise pretty fast to include external drives.
Free with their service.
Can also backup to other computers for free.
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OneDrive etc as a back the problem comes with malware, randsomeware and accidental deletion.
For a backup you really want it disconnected from the system and read only.
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@Jason said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
OneDrive etc as a back the problem comes with malware, randsomeware and accidental deletion.
For a backup you really want it disconnected from the system and read only.
Crashplan works well for this.
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@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@Jason said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
OneDrive etc as a back the problem comes with malware, randsomeware and accidental deletion.
For a backup you really want it disconnected from the system and read only.
Crashplan works well for this.
Yes, but you have to get the data onto your local machine, which
a) requires an answer to my original question and
b) goes against the policy of many here (such as @scottalanmiller) of not storing data locally -
@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@Jason said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
OneDrive etc as a back the problem comes with malware, randsomeware and accidental deletion.
For a backup you really want it disconnected from the system and read only.
Crashplan works well for this.
Yes, but you have to get the data onto your local machine, which
a) requires an answer to my original question and
b) goes against the policy of many here (such as @scottalanmiller) of not storing data locallyif it's for home it doesn't really matter if you are storing it locally.. you don't for companies cause you want a central place to backup..
At home my workstation laptop (Lenovo P70) is that central place. Crash Plan lets me backup unlimited data from one computer and I backup a lot.
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@Jason said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@BRRABill said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@dafyre said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
@Jason said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:
OneDrive etc as a back the problem comes with malware, randsomeware and accidental deletion.
For a backup you really want it disconnected from the system and read only.
Crashplan works well for this.
Yes, but you have to get the data onto your local machine, which
a) requires an answer to my original question and
b) goes against the policy of many here (such as @scottalanmiller) of not storing data locallyif it's for home it doesn't really matter if you are storing it locally.. you don't for companies cause you want a central place to backup..
At home my workstation laptop (Lenovo P70) is that central place. Crash Plan lets me backup unlimited data from one computer and I backup a lot.
Hey I don't want people seeing all my stuff!
