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    • IRJI
      IRJ
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      Not gonna argue over the internet today. I gotta do storm prep...

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      • zuphzuphZ
        zuphzuph Banned
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        So back onto the topic and answering the question at hand. (Tired of reading ML rants/conspiracy theories/arguments tbh.)

        Doesn't Microsoft provide a 2FA service for their accounts? This would add an extra layer of security to your current onedrive account. I've recently setup LastPass with all Randomly generated passwords for security purposes. These have made my account far less "hackable."

        As far as backing up the system you could use Veeam endpoint and sync up an S3 Bucket @ AWS if you wanted to. Problem with this is if the system does go down and you have a BMR backup you're still tied to that make/model of PC.

        Just keep what is absolutely necessary/needed in the cloud account. (This is what I do.)

        I don't have any programs/VMs that aren't entirely rebuild-able or mandatory for me to have. If my PC does one day take a turn for the worst I'll throw in a drive and configure what I need at that point. Yes cloud hosted system backups are a good idea but they come at a cost which to me isn't worth it rn.

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        • cakeis_not_alieC
          cakeis_not_alie @zuphzuph
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          @zuphzuph Why back up a whole system image? Back up data, configs and (maybe) installers. 2FA is the sort of thing every public cloud account that handles sensitive data should have, however, that doesn't remove the need to encrypt the local/NAS copy.

          It's also good practice to encrypt what you're putting into cloud storage (be that OneDrive or any backup solution, such as Backblaze, Glacier, etc). Your level of trust/care about being party to Yahoo-style mass surveillance will determine whether or not you want to take the minimal effort required to defend against that threat. (I take offence to rational concerns backed up by evidence called conspiracy theories, BTW. There are enough of those out there without vilifying legitimate threats.)

          I should also point out that your ability to solve your own personal storage needs by basically saying "meh, **** it, I'll take the risk" re: backups is pretty rare. I personally have at least three non-phone devices, certainly wouldn't relish rebuilding them!

          "Personal use" can also include spouse, children, etc. It doesn't take much for running a household's IT to become as complicated as running that of a small business. More pressing, perhaps, as the angry users know where you sleep. ๐Ÿ™‚

          Also..."just keep what you need in the cloud account" isn't enough for some things. That's okay for my music collection, but I'm going to want better redundancy that that for my home pictures and my tax returns.

          3-2-1: Your data should be on three devices, on two different types of media with one of those copies being offsite.

          If your data doesn't exist in at least two places, then it simply doesn't exist. Being in OneDrive/Dropbox/etc isn't good enough. Public cloud services have had failures and they have lost data. So if you want to use cloud as your primary storage location, make sure you back that cloud up to another, separate cloud.

          Alternately, keep a local copy that is really, really unlikely to go pfffft at the same time the cloud copy has an oopsie. Given how awesome cheap NASes are at this stuff today, proper layered backups should be achievable for cheap, even for the home user.

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          • zuphzuphZ
            zuphzuph Banned @cakeis_not_alie
            last edited by

            @cakeis_not_alie said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

            @zuphzuph Why back up a whole system image? Back up data, configs and (maybe) installers. 2FA is the sort of thing every public cloud account that handles sensitive data should have, however, that doesn't remove the need to encrypt the local/NAS copy.

            It's also good practice to encrypt what you're putting into cloud storage (be that OneDrive or any backup solution, such as Backblaze, Glacier, etc). Your level of trust/care about being party to Yahoo-style mass surveillance will determine whether or not you want to take the minimal effort required to defend against that threat. (I take offence to rational concerns backed up by evidence called conspiracy theories, BTW. There are enough of those out there without vilifying legitimate threats.)

            I should also point out that your ability to solve your own personal storage needs by basically saying "meh, **** it, I'll take the risk" re: backups is pretty rare. I personally have at least three non-phone devices, certainly wouldn't relish rebuilding them!

            "Personal use" can also include spouse, children, etc. It doesn't take much for running a household's IT to become as complicated as running that of a small business. More pressing, perhaps, as the angry users know where you sleep. ๐Ÿ™‚

            Also..."just keep what you need in the cloud account" isn't enough for some things. That's okay for my music collection, but I'm going to want better redundancy that that for my home pictures and my tax returns.

            3-2-1: Your data should be on three devices, on two different types of media with one of those copies being offsite.

            If your data doesn't exist in at least two places, then it simply doesn't exist. Being in OneDrive/Dropbox/etc isn't good enough. Public cloud services have had failures and they have lost data. So if you want to use cloud as your primary storage location, make sure you back that cloud up to another, separate cloud.

            Alternately, keep a local copy that is really, really unlikely to go pfffft at the same time the cloud copy has an oopsie. Given how awesome cheap NASes are at this stuff today, proper layered backups should be achievable for cheap, even for the home user.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @zuphzuph
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              @zuphzuph don't be a dick. If you cannot handle participation, don't. Aside from your bitching, there was nothing bad in this conversation.

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              • zuphzuphZ
                zuphzuph Banned @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                @zuphzuph don't be a dick. If you cannot handle participation, don't. Aside from your bitching, there was nothing bad in this conversation.

                Contributed what I wanted to and nothing more. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                • zuphzuphZ
                  zuphzuph Banned @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                  @zuphzuph don't be a dick. If you cannot handle participation, don't. Aside from your bitching, there was nothing bad in this conversation.

                  I'm glad I brought at least one dick to this thread. โค @JaredBusch

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                  • Minion QueenM
                    Minion Queen Banned
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                    Really??? Grow up people.

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                    • MurtlapM
                      Murtlap @Jason
                      last edited by Murtlap

                      @Jason Maybe Tor is easy to track but what about OpenVPN or Proxy. If we combine these two technologies, you will obtain 99, 9 % privacy, security and anonymity while working on the Internet . There are many threats on the Internet and one needs a qualitative protection for his sensitive data. The good news is that there is a vast variety of technologies that are designed for protecting your network from all the threats. The bad news is that some of the technologies, like Tor, donโ€™t include all the necessary functions for oneโ€™s secure network. Thatโ€™s why sometimes itโ€™s better to combine different technologies

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Murtlap
                        last edited by

                        @Murtlap said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                        @Jason Maybe Tor is easy to track but what about OpenVPN or Proxy. If we combine these two technologies, you will obtain 99, 9 % privacy, security and anonymity while working on the Internet.

                        Eh? If you combine those technologies, the research has already been showing that you can loose your anonymity through TOR. You can have privacy and security without TOR, just with VPN.

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                        • MurtlapM
                          Murtlap @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender but not with a free one

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @Murtlap
                            last edited by

                            @Murtlap said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                            @Dashrender but not with a free one

                            I run my own from the VPS I use as a home lab. Not free exactly, but doesn't cost very much.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Murtlap
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                              @Murtlap said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                              @Dashrender but not with a free one

                              I'm confused - what's not a free one? VPN? If you find a free VPN, what wouldn't be secure/private about it? Being paid doesn't make it more or less secure/private.

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                              • MurtlapM
                                Murtlap @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender yes it was talking about free vpn. Here is main disadvantages:
                                usafe or no encryption protocols;
                                IPv6 DNS and/or WebRTC leaks;
                                inconvenient queuing during a server accessing;
                                access to a very limited number of servers;
                                bans on Torrenting and P2P sharing;
                                limited Linux platform support as well as limited devices support

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  That stuff might all be true, but I guess we're off track because I'm not really sure what you're driving at, or how we got here.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Murtlap
                                    last edited by

                                    @Murtlap said in Another Personal Storage Discussion:

                                    @Dashrender yes it was talking about free vpn. Here is main disadvantages:
                                    usafe or no encryption protocols;
                                    IPv6 DNS and/or WebRTC leaks;
                                    inconvenient queuing during a server accessing;
                                    access to a very limited number of servers;
                                    bans on Torrenting and P2P sharing;
                                    limited Linux platform support as well as limited devices support

                                    I don't have any of those issues with some free VPNs.

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